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Dr. Caleb

I’m aware of that fact, which is why I deliberately used the word “seems” as opposed to “is”. That’s a huge difference which you should have noticed.

The meeting between the oil executives and politicians discussed pipelines through the affected regions. Nothing was mentioned in that meeting about the Doha trade discussions.

Your mention of Doha and conspiracy theories is I would suggest weak and irrelevant. Maybe you object to the word “overwhelmingly”.

How about this then:

This coincidence seems significant.

(I’ve remove the quotes and the “overwhelmingly”)

Surely you can’t shout “conspiracy theory” over that.


Mike
Winnipeg

   

I did notice your use of 'seems' vs 'is'. My mentioning of the Doha talks is indeed irrelevant, but nonetheless, ocurred about the same time. I simply believe the Doha talks had the same effect on Isreal vs Hezbolla/Hamas as the Oil Exec talks. None whatsoever.

You simply mentioned "seems [overwhelmingly] significant" whereas I believe the relationship between the two is overwhelmingly irrelevant.

"Surely you can’t shout “conspiracy theory” over that. "

No, I'm simply pointing out that such a weak connection between these two (three?) events is what leads people (not need be you) to form thoeries as to why this whole mess started to begin with. Just like Afghanistan.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

   

Fair enough.

I don’t know what bearing the meeting may or may not have had on these hostilities, if any. Certainly geo-political interests are outlined and the optics are bad.

You think they are irrelevant. That is entirely possible. I do think that the US/British position on a ceasefire may have some relevancy to this meeting. I agree with you that conclusions should not be hastily drawn in matters as complex as these. Long term patterns can point one in the right direction. I find it difficult to ignore the underlying energy issue here.

Having said that, I believe this pipeline will not happen or will fail.

“Whatever you do, don’t mention Afghanistan Sybil”. (Reference to Basil Faulty who advised his staff not to mention the war in front of the German patrons)

Mike
Winnipeg

   

Faulty Towers! Haa!

Yes, I agree it is still too early to tell what, if any, outcome or effect those talks will have on anything. But, just to get myself straight on which way I'm leaning.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

   

Perhaps we should simply see this as a "police action" designed to intimidate opposition to Bush and Blair... not to mention any anti-war protests within Israel itself. THIS is not exactly a "capitalist plot" just like Vietnam had very little to do with "tin and tungsten". After all the US and Britain are quite happy to deal with dictatorships most of the time so the idea of simply paving a way for big business doesn't quite add up. (You don't need a war for that.) One of the reasons the US was forced out of southeast Asia was the (sort-of) battle between the "yankees" and the "cowboys". Some big whigs began to figure the costs (ie. inflation) of that war were just not worth it. It is a reasonable possibility portions of the American elite will decide "enough is enough" with the bloody state of Israel. But I think this will take quite awhile.

   

Yes, which way one leans ........ mabye it's better to stand up straight and not touch anything That's no fun though, in these are crazy making times.

Mike

   

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