Canada Kicks Ass
Yes, I’m scared of Stephen Harper!

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Guest @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:40 pm

I'm not so sure. All the article said was that MPs were going to meet with "clergy" - not Pat Robertson. I think there IS a Liberal media bias against Catholic clergy because of issues like abortion and SSM even though rabbis & imams may hold similar positions. You will never ever see any criticism of an MP meeting with these other religious representatives. It would be interesting to see if anyone out there can find ONE negative article regarding SSM,abortion and MPS meeting with OTHER religious reps.

   



kpkontario @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:52 pm

According to CBC's the National..The Conservatives are going to raise persoanl income taxes! What the hell is going on! .. The NDP is getting tough on crime and the Conservatives are raising taxes! Another reason why marijuana should not be legalized.

   



kpkontario @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:58 pm

P.S. If there is Conservative party rep on this board .. could explain why your party is doing this? It is going to have very bad optics and the other parties are going to have a field day..

   



Guest @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:37 pm

Well actually you know the christian groups are always trying to get their finger into the government pie. There is a reason for separation of church and state - the same goes for OBJECTIVE REPORTING... liberal media, keep the Rush Limbaugh talking points to yourself - we're pretty much onto that claptrap now.

Go to church, take your little bready bits and your wine and keep your religion out of my life, because what I do is none of your business.

   



Guest @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:38 pm

OOOh TIED with the libs you say?!!! By golly they've split the 1% of the popular Qweeebec vote, lookout!! I'm petrified.

   



Guest @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:40 pm

I knew it. Squealing pigs eh? If you used a little k-y I don't think Stephen would hurt so much on entry.

   



Guest @ Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:44 pm

Don't waste your time on turdy, he's only got a few months left in the shotgun shack before the white suits come with the van.

   



Guest @ Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:31 am

I have no problem with it.

   



Guest @ Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:09 am

We at the conservative party of canada are committed to providing only the best, targeted tax cuts for Canadians who matter, those are the rich W.A.S.P.'s in the gated communities that believe in chastity belts, fine family values like denying the holocaust existence, beating and killing homosexuals and most importantly keeping poor brown people where they belong. As a result we are ensuring that they continue to pay for the services and roads you drive your bentleys and jaguars on. Remember that 1% reduction in GST saves you nearly 1000 dollars on that new Vanden Plas.

   



4Canada @ Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:32 am

To all the "I wanna be something besides Canadians" and the "Vote for change" crowd:

How be we rip up the map of Canada that separates us with provincial boundaries? Kick all the provincial governments out of the parliament buildings and use them for our military training bases of DRAFTED OVER 40'S STUPID WHITE MEN? Then all the people wanting to separate from Canada would have to call each of us by name... we could call it the "Red Rover, Red Rover War" instead of the Alberta vs. Ontario vs Quebec vs Newfoundland crap!!!

How many wars do you suppose we would be joining or starting when all of the stupid white men over 40 were the ones that would be fighting them? I can gaurantee that they would become very smart very quickly and no war would ever leave the boardrooms or bars!

Also, another change I think I'd like to see take place is that if a minority government cannot cooperate and work for Canadians as they voted them in, and they make OUR government fall they are considered as an employee that QUITE THEIR JOB!!! They have no right to run again. Why should they? I am very angry that we are even having another election this soon. If Harper is so concerned about how much scandal money has been stolen from us what does he consider all this money he and Layton have forced us to spend?

That would be considered a change for me, not Stephen Harper, not another Paul Martin, not another election exactly like the last election. There are many changes we need but voting Stephen Harper as one of them.

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

   



Guest @ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:29 am

Agreed. And that goes double for the gov't and state-run media.

   



FurGaia @ Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:53 pm

Just ran across Maude Barlow's take on Harper and <a href="http://thegallopingbeaver.blogspot.com/2006/01/conservative-party-candidates-that.html">his team</a>: <p> <blockquote>In his thoughtful January 5 Globe and Mail column, Lawrence Martin wonders whether Conservative Leader Stephen Harper's new "Captain Canada" personna is real or a ruse. [...] <p> How real is this new persona? Well I for one don't buy it for a minute. I did a lot of research on Stephen Harper for my new book and was very disturbed by what I found. Harper has been a consistent and clear pro-American hawk. <p> Heaven knows, I have not been happy with the Liberal Party on its slow dance toward deep integration with the United States. But a Stephen Harper government would be disastrous for Canadian foreign policy and the bedrock values of mainstream Canada. <a href="http://forums.macleans.ca/advansis/?mod=for&act=dis&eid=8">Full text</a> </blockquote>

   



Guest @ Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:28 pm

I rec'd some unsolicited junk mail from Maude a while back. Printed on glossy paper.

This self appointed anti-globalism leader can't even contain her lavish lifestyle to her own residence. She has a second home/lakefront cottage in Quebec near Hull. If she is so concerned about the world why doesn't she mow down her cottage and let it go fallow. She could donate the cash to starving kids and save the environment in the process. But I don't think she will be doing that now will she? Just another fear-mongering left wing hypocrite echoing Liberal talking points. It seems this trend is catching on. Must mean Harper is doing something right (pun intended).

   



FurGaia @ Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:33 pm

Oh! Come on, Anon, surely you do not mean that one has to get rid of one's belongings - and be dirt poor, perhaps - in order to care for one's community, country or world, do you? That was a cheap shot! <p> And I fail to see how putting forward a point of view different from yours automatically makes us hypocrites. I am sure your belief and trust in Harper are sincere, as is our fear of him. Labelling us "fear-mongering left wing hypocrite" does not help at all. Explain to us why we should not fear him, not with talking points, but with real proof that he is out to fight for Canada, that he is not a US Right-wing Fundamentalist Neocon stooge, that all those fearsome stuff that we can read <a href="http://www.harperwatch.ca/home">here</a> are all just lies! <p> Then, I'll listen to you, my friend!

   



Guest @ Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:29 am

<<Oh! Come on, Anon, surely you do not mean that one has to get rid of one's belongings - and be dirt poor, perhaps - in order to care for one's community, country or world, do you? That was a cheap shot!>>

Dirt poor no. But maybe she could contain herself to one dwelling. I do. You know lead by example. The money spent on that cottage could have fed those children "living under the poverty line". And as for the unsolicited mailing...it was regarding a fear campaign about water. The lakefront cottage she occupies is very relevant in this context. In fact it is the very definition of the word hypocrite. And I'm sure even Maude would call herself left wing. So I don't see how calling her a left wing hypocrite was a cheap shot at all. That to thine own self be true I guess (for me and Maude).

<< Explain to us why we should not fear him, not with talking points, but with real proof that he is out to fight for Canada, that he is not a US Right-wing Fundamentalist Neocon stooge, that all those fearsome stuff that we can read here are all just lies! >>

If by real proof you want me to make an argument that he will fight "deep integration", tear up NAFTA, seal off the the border with tariff walls and look to China to buy our goods, sorry to dissapoint. Interesting though that you use a paint by numbers Liberal talking point slursite, as proof that he is scary. But then ask that I answer without "talking points". I won't call you hypocritical as that might be construed as a cheap shot.

Took a quick look, I'm guessing since this site isn't getting any traction in the media (even CBC) that the quotes are old - but admittedly probably ones I agree with.

Healthcare: I agree it is a sinkhole for cash and will only get worse as the boomers age. The current "free" plan already consumes about a third of all fed taxes and the amount increases every year. Are you worried about single payer mixed state and private delivery? Read Liberal Senator Kirby's report. I guess these Senators are also "Neocons". Meanwhile our PM goes to a private clinic and Harper uses the patriotic Canadian system. So who is scary?

Same Sex Marriage: Harper, a religious man, believed we should not redefine marriage. Wow! How extreme, he joins such "US right wing fundamentalist neocon stooges" as Cuba, Sweden, Denmark, France, Greece, Russia, India, Brazil and every other nation in the world save for the Netherlands.

Atlantic subsidies. I agree with his statement there, and so do many Atlantic Cdns (albeit quietly). Seasonal fisherman used to maintain large gardens or farms and work in the winter. Now they work a few months and collect EI for the rest of the year. They won't take other jobs as that would lower benefits, limiting the labour pool for anyone wanting to hire people.

Quebec: Billingualism has failed. I agree. So do most Quebecers. Doesn't make a lot of sense to have someone in language training for 3 of thier last 5 years in the civil service yet this is quite common. But don't worry, your precious billingualism isn't on the table.

Pay equity: both males and females rec'd those settlement payments. They were for clerical jobs largley held by woman, but men (esp in tax centres) were also in that classification and they rec'd the same pay as female counterparts. The point is that the very idea of trying to figure out a value for work on 2 completely different jobs was ill-considered by the tribunal. Bottom line...the value of a job is what an employer is willing to pay for it in order to be competive with other employers. It is also based on individual performance and results. Wow, what neocon nutjob dreamed up that concept?

Just glanced at the rest...but I'm sure I would agree, for the most part with the quotes mentioned regarding immigration, the US, our military, muticult etc. Of course I wouldn't agree with some, and others would depend on context. But in the end, Harper has a party platform, a mandate from his party, and hopefully soon from the electorate. So, no I don't find him scary at all. The prospect of 4 more years of Liberals is much more scary.

Remember, we weren't supposed to find out about the Adscam scandal. You have your fears I have mine.

   



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