30 Million lies to vote Liberal?
QBC QBC:
Poor ridenrain, ran out off your medication again I see. Still having those nightmarish delusions of Harper being PM? I sure hope they find you some meds that help you with that.
Ya know, I'd be actually voting Conservative this election if they had turfed Harper to the curb after the last election. Those adds of his, well, are beyond stupid and the CPC's should hire actors that actually can act next time, Harper, won't be in them next election and then maybe the CPC will get my vote again.
Get rid of the neo-con Alliance domination of that party, elect someone more in tune with what Canadians want, such as a John Tory or Bernard Lord as leader of that party and a lot of Canadians would probably share your views.
Until then, they don't stand a chance.
ridenrain ridenrain:
RedBull RedBull:
Here is another tidbit that is sure to shake your view of the world - Harper uses a teleprompter for all his campaign events!!! Oh no! And he also has a body language tutor who prompts him from outside the camera's view!! Oh no!
RedBull RedBull:
Don't be an idiot....he uses teleprompters when he is giving his remarks. Q&As are free-flowing.
Are Q&A not campaign events? You must be a Card carrying Fiberal member because you can't keep you're story straight either.
Who's the idiot now?
You really make it too easy. I was not criticizing any one party...I was merely trying to clue you into the reality of message manipulation that all parties do.
Media availabilities are indeed "events", but what I am talking about are the events when leaders make announcements of policy.
Ruserious Ruserious:
QBC QBC:
Poor ridenrain, ran out off your medication again I see. Still having those nightmarish delusions of Harper being PM? I sure hope they find you some meds that help you with that.
Ya know, I'd be actually voting Conservative this election if they had turfed Harper to the curb after the last election. Those adds of his, well, are beyond stupid and the CPC's should hire actors that actually can act next time, Harper, won't be in them next election and then maybe the CPC will get my vote again.
Get rid of the neo-con Alliance domination of that party, elect someone more in tune with what Canadians want, such as a John Tory or Bernard Lord as leader of that party and a lot of Canadians would probably share your views.
Until then, they don't stand a chance.
neo-con neo-con neo-con neo-con neo-con new Liberal word for somebody with ball's, I hear the walmart has them on sale next week, stop by and get set will ya
RedBull RedBull:
ridenrain ridenrain:
Does it sound like he's reading from a teleprompter?
Don't be an idiot....he uses teleprompters when he is giving his remarks. Q&As are free-flowing.
Oh really. Wow! thats so enlightening I can hear the clap of thunder
torian @ Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:52 pm
It's interesting....
I was watching a news program that had a young adult asking people to view the commericals and rate them
Most thought laytons was funny, but said nothing, just negative about the other party
Most thought Harper's was poorly acted
Most loved Martin's. They thought the people in it were natural, they told a story, etc.
Until the young adult told them how each person was connected to the higher echelons of the liberal party, aka, not the average canadian.
It's tiny, but for a party that is supposed to be "utterly transparent" (paul martin's words), tricking the viewers into believing they were not just "average liberal supporters" was misleading. Especially since they had attributed them as "liberal supporters". Why did they not go all the way and attribute them fully? They must have known that it would look bad when the media eventually found out
Afterall, in high school, are we not taught the value of attribution?
lily lily:
And in elementary school were you not taught not to believe everything you saw on TV?
The only people who look natural and unrehearsed on TV are professional actors... that's why they're used for ads, etc.
TV is not real life, people. Even Survivor and other so-called reality shows are heavily edited.
Oh God!!!! say it isn't so so. Tell me those were just mean and malicious lies. My world is even now beginning to collapse. I'll have to re revaluate my entire belief system. Thanks you cruel cold hearte harridan.
RedBull RedBull:
ridenrain ridenrain:
RedBull RedBull:
Here is another tidbit that is sure to shake your view of the world - Harper uses a teleprompter for all his campaign events!!! Oh no! And he also has a body language tutor who prompts him from outside the camera's view!! Oh no!
RedBull RedBull:
Don't be an idiot....he uses teleprompters when he is giving his remarks. Q&As are free-flowing.
Are Q&A not campaign events? You must be a Card carrying Fiberal member because you can't keep you're story straight either.
Who's the idiot now?
Media availabilities are indeed "events", but what I am talking about are the events when leaders make announcements of policy.
Why didn't you say that then, instead of misleading people. We can't very well read you're mind now, can we.
If you look and listen very carefully, you'll see that the sound and video are not dead on either. Maybe you could all ask Harper if Grewal cut any parts out?
ridenrain ridenrain:
There is no pretence there. It looks like a set and she acts as a question.
What's you're problem with women?
Here we go again.
[video width=400 height=350]http://www.conservativegroundswell.com/audiovideo/ProudToBeCanadian.ca_Harper_Too_Good_For_Primetime_001.wmv[/video]
Are those CPC actors?
Does it sound like he's reading from a teleprompter?
Hell, that even sounds like humor and personality.
Point taken, but it takes him longer to finish a sentence than that Jeff Goldblum guy from Jurassic Park.
Tricks @ Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:27 pm
Ruserious Ruserious:
QBC QBC:
Poor ridenrain, ran out off your medication again I see. Still having those nightmarish delusions of Harper being PM? I sure hope they find you some meds that help you with that.
Ya know, I'd be actually voting Conservative this election if they had turfed Harper to the curb after the last election. Those adds of his, well, are beyond stupid and the CPC's should hire actors that actually can act next time, Harper, won't be in them next election and then maybe the CPC will get my vote again.
Get rid of the neo-con Alliance domination of that party, elect someone more in tune with what Canadians want, such as a John Tory or Bernard Lord as leader of that party and a lot of Canadians would probably share your views.
Until then, they don't stand a chance.
How about jim flahrety (totally spelt that wrong) He has been the MPP in my region for the past i think 3 elections. He just moved up to federal this year to go for MP. He was the shadow finance minister before he left, he is a great person, i would definately vote for him
Streaker Streaker:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
You gotta love the NDP...

Hear! Hear!
The NDP: Taking the piss out of the Conservatives
and the Liberals since 1961.

But ya know, If Harper wasn't such a slimeball, I'd probably wote Conservative. Plus there are some issues that are very close to me that the Cons don't share.
You mean this guy?
He's a Joe Flaherty.
I'd vote for him, but not that Guy Caballero fella.
No, you fool! *smack!*
This guy........
He played Dr. Ian Malcolm in the first Jurassic Park.
Least I can do is bump. 
torian @ Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:49 am
lily lily:
And in elementary school were you not taught not to believe everything you saw on TV?
The only people who look natural and unrehearsed on TV are professional actors... that's why they're used for ads, etc.
TV is not real life, people. Even Survivor and other so-called reality shows are heavily edited.
actually, the only people who looked natural and unrehearsed were on the liberal commercial. The reason for that: they are not reading off a telepromter; their comments have been firmly planted into their minds.
I don't believe everything I see on tv. My point was, why would the liberals only go halfway with their attribution? For each person, in the corner of the screen, it says their name and "liberal". They knew the media would check out where they came from. Why not go the distance and attribute fully?
It was amazing to watch how the people on the street on this news program changed their minds about the ad once they realized the "actors" were not really actors, but worked for the liberal party.
We expect them to be actors, and not necessarily agree with party politics. We don't expect them to be paid workers from that party.
As for not believing everything you see on tv...well Martin's ban on banned guns was VERY hard to believe. Never thought that could be done.
ps...I think I won!
Tricks @ Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:05 pm
Lemme try this again, the mic didn't want to show up :\
http://www.jimflaherty.ca/