'Green' politicians should quit griping about gas prices
romanP @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:36 pm
mtbr mtbr:
You would vote for anything that was wearing a red sweater...
That dog could run our government better than any Liberal or Conservative politician any day.
romanP @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:37 pm
cheryl08 cheryl08:
$1:
Yes, but you'll vote Liberal anyway
I'll probobly vote liberal but as a strategic vote...conservatives don't deserve majority government and voting NDP seems like a waste of a vote
There is no such thing as a wasted vote. If you only vote for the party you think is going to win, rather than the party you want to win, we might as well just get rid of democracy because the end result is no choices at all.
dino_bobba_renno @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:43 pm
cheryl08 cheryl08:
that's not the point, GST is a flat tax meaning that people with higher incomes tend to buy more things and therefore pay more GST. And being part of a mid-income family i really don't see how an extra (3 bucks max.) pocket of change is gonna make a difference. I would say lower income families would prefer an increase in these taxes because it's better to have efficient social services that an extra two dollars. This extra revenue could go towards health care, transportation and child care; things that they can't afford on their own that would benefit them more than an extra 2 dollars in their pockets.
Well ya that is the point, you said that big corporations were the ones who benefited from the GST cuts and that is inaccurate.
To say that people with lower to mid income levels don't benefit or that they benefit less is also not true. People with less disposable income see a big difference when making big ticket purchases where the difference of 2% can mean being able to buy what they want as opposed to not. Not to mention people with lower incomes have less disposable income and therefore every cent they can save on purchases for things like fuel, clothing, furniture and other staples counts. Also, these little savings add up over time.
Like I said it probably wasn't the best way to cut taxes but to say that the GST cuts had zero benefit for people with lower to average incomes or that it benefits the rich more is simply not true.
Besides, the Conservatives promised to cut the GST not personal income taxes. They campaigned on that promise and were elected on it and after they won they followed through. I know that keeping election promises is a foreign thing for Liberals but that’s exactly what the Conservatives did so it's pretty hard to knock them for it.
cheryl08 @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:45 pm
The problem is there are no political parties that actually represent what the Canadian people are looking for. Conservatives are just too right wing for me, and Dion could be focusing on so many other important issues than the enviornment.
dino_bobba_renno @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:51 pm
cheryl08 cheryl08:
The problem is there are no political parties that actually represent what the Canadian people are looking for. Conservatives are just too right wing for me, and Dion could be focusing on so many other important issues than the enviornment.
Isn't that part of the problem? Dion doesn't seem to have a plan for anything other than his green shift which misses the intended target, saving the environment, by a long shot.
Rather than focusing on actual viable policy alternatives he has chosen to play the "scandal" card at every opportunity and has made a circus of parliament and it's committees.
Had Dion chosen to take the high road and focused on what’s important I'd be sitting here right now bitching about what a lousy PM he is.
One of the largest problems facing Canadian politics is the fact that most elected officials put the interests of their parties ahead of the interests of the country, and that doesn't just go towards the Liberals it goes towards all parties.
cheryl08 @ Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:58 pm
i agree
Benoit @ Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:19 pm
dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
cheryl08 cheryl08:
The problem is there are no political parties that actually represent what the Canadian people are looking for. Conservatives are just too right wing for me, and Dion could be focusing on so many other important issues than the enviornment.
Isn't that part of the problem? Dion doesn't seem to have a plan for anything other than his green shift which misses the intended target, saving the environment, by a long shot.
The higher the price, the lesser is consumed.