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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=C5UDpj4ptEo

VOTE NDP

   

Yes children live in poverty it's sad. Their parents need good paying jobs, like the jobs that are offered in Alberta.

Yes millions of Canadians don't have a family doctor, I haven't had one in over ten years when the Liberals were running the country. I think Harper should try to fix that.

Yes we have oilsands, if Harper never wants to get elected again he can try to shut them down, that goes for any other politician.

   

Yes, those good paying jobs need to be all over Canada!

In 1981, just one year out of high school, I was making $12.75/hour unloading trucks as a Teamster.

That's more than $29.00/hr in today's dollars for unskilled, manual labour suitable for an 18 year old. Almost $60K/year. Enough to raise a family on.

What are the minimum wages today?

Alberta.........$8.40
BC..............$8.00
Manitoba........$8.50
New Brunswick...$7.75
Newfoundland....$8.00
NWT.............$8.25
Nova Scotia.....$8.10
Nunavut........$10.00
Ontario.........$8.75
PEI.............$7.75
Quebec..........$8.50
Saskatchewan....$8.60
Yukon...........$8.58

Nobody can live on $16K/year.



He's had more than 2 1/2 years to do something about healthcare!

   

   

I agree with you, he hasn't done enough for healthcare. In fact I think the only party that really would sit down and take it seriously would be the NDP, however I'm not prepared to vote NDP. I am prepared to pester PM Harper to do more about healthcare.

   

Pshaw. Our minimum wage is lower!
Federally, it's $6.55 until 2009, when it'll bump up to $7.25.
Although I think the US dollar has picked up a little value recently, if I'm not mistaken.

   

   

It's a great ad. It points out that Harper isn't a leader at all. He's had two years and, if he'd wanted to address any of those things, would have found support on the opposition benches. He has refused to seek that support though, instead preferring to bully, lie, and evade. That ain't leadership.

   

If that's the criteria for a leader then Paul Martin wasn't a leader, and Jean Chretien wasn't a leader. It would be nice if Layton would point that out as well. These Canadians didn't lose their doctors in the two years Harper has been in office. And people didn't become poor in the two years Harper has been in office. In fact he's trying to reduce taxes to help the poorer Canadians. Dion would like to raise them. A revenue neutral carbon tax doesn't help you much if you are already making so little that you don't pay income tax.

   

I concur, although I would say that both of them were at least nominally better than Harper.




Um, he criticized their leadership when they were in power. Unlike the Conservatives, he's not stuck in the past though. Perhaps your inability to move into the present is due to a lack of leadership?



No, but if you look at the policies that lead to those things, Harper's criticism was that those policies weren't even harsher...he wanted more poor people and fewer people with doctors. There is no real evidence that he's changed his outlook, although he's softened his rhetoric because it scared people.



What the hell do they put in that Kool-Aid?

You have to spend $50,000 to save $1000 in GST with Harper's cuts. I don't know a lot of poor people who buy a lot of GST-able items. His diesel cut will save us all about $15 a year if the corporations don't decide to take it.



I wish...I really, really wish...that you guys would learn about Dion's plan instead of just making shit up.

The thing is that I don't agree with Dion's plan, but I find myself defending it constantly because you misconstrue it so badly. It makes it impossible to have an intelligent conversation about it.

There are provisions in there for the poor. There are provisions in there for those on fixed incomes. There is help to re-fit homes to save energy. There is help for those who need fuel to run a small business.

I don't, as I said, agree with Dion's plan, but there's a hell of lot more there for Canadians than Harper has offered. In fact, when you actually look at what Harper has offered, there's so little there that it might as well be nothing.

   

You don't agree with it but you defend it? Now why would you do that?

   

"I find myself defending it constantly because you misconstrue it so badly."

Reading skills seem fine but comprehension appears lacking.

   

Because the lies from the Harper camp make it difficult to carry on an intelligent conversation. Of course, judging by the low level of discourse from the Harper supporters around here, I doubt many of them are capable of carrying on an intelligent conversation about anything.

I'll give you another shot though. Economists...most of them, not just those from the left...have said that Harper's GST cut and his proposed diesel fuel cut do little or nothing to help the poor, since those are consumption taxes and the poor don't consume much.

At the same time, those tax cuts are incredibly expensive for the government coffers, reducing the government's capacity to provide programs that would help the poor.

The Liberals have a plan that has provisions for the poor. The NDP have a plan that has provisions for the poor. Both of those plans address the climate crisis. Both of those plans aim to modernize Canada's economy so we don't get left behind as other countries move on. Both of those plans act on what the majority of economists are saying is the right thing to do.

Stephen Harper doesn't even seem to have a plan, other than reducing the government's capacity to provide programs. Instead he has policies that seem disconnected and scribbled on the back of a napkin. He's a reactionary, at best. How is that providing leadership? It isn't.

   

So you defend a plan you disagree with just to help out us poor thick Tories?

You are just a stand-up guy for a far lefty type. Kinda Jesus of the NDP......

   

Who will ultimately bear the tax incidence? There is very little elasticity in the demand side of things in the energy sector, who's to say the major energy companies hit by the tax do not pass the tax onto the consumer?

What is the cost of administering the tax? Who will the tax incidence be placed on then? The government or tax payers? Why is there hair on my forearm?

The problem is, as great as the plan is, I don't know squat about it. Do you know why?

Because Dion can't communicate the plan properly. It may be the greatest plan, but if he cannot elaborate it to the electorate, it will seem like just another tax and the liberals will loose based on that.

This is why leadership in politics is about charisma. Let the smart guys run the show from behind the curtains.

   

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