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And how do you separate the two? People's eligious beliefs are a part of them. The deity part aside it's a moral code, behavioural norms, a way of life. All of which would affect any policy decisions they're involved in. Just as an environmentalist's views would affect his policy making. Can I say I want environmentalism out of office, but not the people who believe in it? Or socialism out of office, but not socialists? Sounds ridiculous to me.

   

But they did propose taking religious dialogue out of the discussions by office holders. That's the important factor. They can hold their beliefs, but they shouldn't be governing based on them.

The implication is one can not have convictions without Religion?

   

But they did propose taking religious dialogue out of the discussions by office holders. That's the important factor. They can hold their beliefs, but they shouldn't be governing based on them.
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What should they base their governance on then? 2d20?

   

Certainly one can. Might one govern according to those convictions? It's ok as long as they're not religiously based?

   

I have no idea what a 2d20 is...

Depends on the area I suppose, for instance, injection religion into this:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/09 ... ate-change

is very very bad.

Base governance on rational thought. Should I make this law because killing people is bad or because a book tells me killing people is bad.

   

Depends, are they based in nonsense as well?

   

In a lot of ways such a system would make for an absolutely awesome world. Roll an 88 and you kill the dragon. Roll under that and you lose all your health care coverage for the next ten years.

   

Just to get some actual facts out there:

   

If a mannequin can become PM it just goes to show how plastic and unappealing those other parties leadership candidates are.

Oh that's right, based on your criteria for PM, the Liberals will win the next election because their mannequin is prettier than the Conservative mannequin.

I'd say there's a good chance you'll be even more alarmed in couple of years.

   

If you don't go by a book, what tells you that killing is bad?

   

Define nonsense. is Elizabeth May's version of environmentalism nonsense? A lot of people would say so. Should she be barred from politics? What about Mulcair's economic ideas? If I think they're based on nonsense can I have him excluded from the political process?

   

I honestly can't say for sure if we would be any worse off.

Can I apply for the DM job? I'd like to get to decide what you have to roll to legalize pot, or bring back the death penalty.

   

Ohhhh can I be the Chaotic Evil player even if I lose all my stuff do to my own fault I can steal everyone else's things. Wait would make me a liberal or a politician?

   

Just goes to show you how long I've been out of that scene - we used to use two 10-sided dice for such rolls...

   

Common sense. Basic human dignity. People are able to tell right from wrong without religion.

Religion often clouds the line between good and bad without regard for common sense or basic human rights/dignity.

   

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