Manley says, heave ho Dion must go!
ShepherdsDog @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:49 am
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Manley said the idea that the public would welcome Dion as prime minister after having rejected him during the Oct. 14 federal election "was delusional at best."
"Mr. Dion had seemed to accept responsibility for the defeat (although somewhat reluctantly), and should have left his post immediately" after the vote, wrote Manley, who is now counsel at McCarthy Tétrault LLP.
"Furthermore, in agreeing to the terms of the coalition with the NDP and the Bloc, Mr. Dion bound his successor to a controversial arrangement without even consulting any of the candidates to succeed him in the process, leaving them no option but to endorse it or break with him as party leader."
"Mr. Dion had seemed to accept responsibility for the defeat (although somewhat reluctantly), and should have left his post immediately" after the vote, wrote Manley, who is now counsel at McCarthy Tétrault LLP.
"Furthermore, in agreeing to the terms of the coalition with the NDP and the Bloc, Mr. Dion bound his successor to a controversial arrangement without even consulting any of the candidates to succeed him in the process, leaving them no option but to endorse it or break with him as party leader."
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/ ... anley.html
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An EKOS poll conducted Thursday night found 60 per cent of Canadians surveyed think Dion should resign as Liberal leader in light of what has happened on Parliament Hill this week.
By comparison, 37 per cent of respondents said they think Harper should step down.
By comparison, 37 per cent of respondents said they think Harper should step down.
Who is seen as the better choice for PM......hmmmm?
A 60% disapproval rating vs. a 63% approval rating. can't see these numbers changing much especially if Rae is appointed leader. Then it isn't a coalition of the Liberals and the NDP. Ignatieff is the only hope the Liberals have.
HyperionTheEvil @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:54 am
I wonder where the Liberal Stalwarts on this thread?
CommanderSock @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:47 am
Both Dion and Harper have lost confidence of the house. They must both go.
HyperionTheEvil @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:06 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
Both Dion and Harper have lost confidence of the house. They must both go.
Funny, you guys were praising Dion just a couple of dayts ago weren't ya?
mtbr @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:15 am
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
Both Dion and Harper have lost confidence of the house. They must both go.
Funny, you guys were praising Dion just a couple of dayts ago weren't ya?
The youtube video did him in. I heard someone liken it to a hostage video
Liberal party infighting explodes over Dion's video 'mess'
Botched statement brings divisions between staff, advisers to the forefront
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/today ... story.html
daTerminehtor @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:27 am
canadian-politics-f17/manley-calls-for-dion-s-head-t70553.html
CommanderSock @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:34 am
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
Both Dion and Harper have lost confidence of the house. They must both go.
Funny, you guys were praising Dion just a couple of dayts ago weren't ya?
I never praised Dion. I did not vote in this election because I couldn't bring myself to cast ballot to a representative who supports Dion. But I couldn't cast a ballot for the conservatives either, you know, conservative and all that.
I would vote UK tory though, no social agenda, only financial. The Cons would get my vote if they stopped being socially conservative.
ridenrain @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:04 pm
HAHAH.. Didn't vote..
Then again, if this coalition goes go through, you'll be ahead because our votes will have been rendered pointless and we bothered to vote.
Damned that coalition logic again.
Now it looks like the Libs are burning all their rule books and making their leader a caucus choice. Screw the members. Derby: You're new Liberal member card gives you no right because people who simply know better will be making that choice for you.
Again, more glorious coalition democratic logic.
All hail Ford.
EyeBrock @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:47 pm
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
CommanderSock CommanderSock:
Both Dion and Harper have lost confidence of the house. They must both go.
Funny, you guys were praising Dion just a couple of dayts ago weren't ya?
I never praised Dion. I did not vote in this election because I couldn't bring myself to cast ballot to a representative who supports Dion. But I couldn't cast a ballot for the conservatives either, you know, conservative and all that.
I would vote UK tory though, no social agenda, only financial. The Cons would get my vote if they stopped being socially conservative.
I'm sorry. I just see that as a cop out.
One choice is always better, even if slightly better, than the others.
You have no voice if you don't vote.
PluggyRug @ Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:50 pm
Voting, however ineffectual it may seem, is the proper way.
Play it forward, and all that.