Canada Kicks Ass
Military commitment in Afghanistan over by 2011: Harper

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Scape @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:18 pm

Wow

   



roger-roger @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:19 pm

Looks like Im going to have to push to get one more tour in for 2010.

   



bootlegga @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:24 pm

It sounds too good to be true if you ask me.

Defence promises from Harper sound really hollow lately...he can promise all he wants, but six months from now, he'll just change his mind again.

   



Tricks @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:26 pm

Bad move Harper.

   



roger-roger @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:31 pm

He has to do it though, it is really hard to argue an engagement like Afghanistan for more then 10 years.

   



ridenrain @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:35 pm

bootlegga bootlegga:
Defence promises from Harper sound really hollow lately...he can promise all he wants, but six months from now, he'll just change his mind again.



Please stop the bleating!

You bitches demanded a debate and you got one. The Manley commission conditions were met and the mission goes ahead as planned. The only reason you guys don't want to talk about that was because it keeps reminding Canadians that the Liberals put us in Chretien's war in the first place. The shamefull path the Libs are on now is one of the main reasons why many of the old time Liberal MP's left. They believed in the mission and Canada's role in NATO and couldn't stomach dropping the mission for political gamesmanship.

Everything that Harper has done in Afghanistan is a hell of a lot more democratic that the shit that Chretien or Martin pulled.
Did we have public debates or even reporters in the field?

   



bootlegga @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:43 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
Please stop the bleating!

You bitches demanded a debate and you got one. The Manley commission conditions were met and the mission goes ahead as planned. The only reason you guys don't want to talk about that was because it keeps reminding Canadians that the Liberals put us in Chretien's war in the first place. The shamefull path the Libs are on now is one of the main reasons why many of the old time Liberal MP's left. They believed in the mission and Canada's role in NATO and couldn't stomach dropping the mission for political gamesmanship.

Everything that Harper has done in Afghanistan is a hell of a lot more democratic that the shit that Chretien or Martin pulled.
Did we have public debates or even reporters in the field?


You're the one bleating (like always). I didn't demand shit...

My comment was a reflection of Harper's Mulroney-like defence policy...promise something now and cancel it six months/a year later, after everyone's forgotten about it. When it comes to the defence portfolio, he's fulfilled only one promise, and reneged on far more, either stalling them or cancelling them outright.

Harper's idea of 'democracy' is only allowing newspapers/reporters that kiss his ass into his press conferences..sounds more like Communist China or Stalinist Soviet Union than any democracy I've ever studied or heard of...

You can take you righteous indignation and shove it up your ass for all I care.

   



Scape @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:49 pm

Tricks Tricks:
Bad move Harper.



Yep, just boggles the mind. What the hell is he thinking? He clearly didn't clear this with our allies from their reaction. Harper accusing Dion of making changes to his green shift policy on the fly with notes on napkins now really rings hollow with a move like this.

   



ridenrain @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:52 pm

So how's that national childcare program comming?
GST is still here too.


Everytime I see you in a military thread, I always hope you can put the country ahead of you're political bias and, so far, you always prove me wrong. Although I hated the way the media gladhanded it, the Libs were right to start this mission and the Manley commission was a fair and honest debate that set condition that were met. Why do you expect that the PM who's already been far more open about the mission that the others, would not put this to a vote also?
Besides, the Libs will have far fewer seats this time around anyways :D

   



Tricks @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:55 pm

Scape Scape:
Tricks Tricks:
Bad move Harper.



Yep, just boggles the mind. What the hell is he thinking? He clearly didn't clear this with our allies from their reaction. Harper accusing Dion of making changes to his green shift policy on the fly with notes on napkins now really rings hollow with a move like this.

Will piss off allies, piss of conservatives who want us to stay there, and everyone who wants us out will think he is lying for the sake of being elected. And it looks like a flip flop. He loses from so many directions.

   



sandorski @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:59 pm

He's correct, although not the first. We can't stay in Afghanistan forever, nor should we.

   



hurley_108 @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:00 pm

He's floundering. Ten bucks says he goes back to Jean by the weekend and has her call off the election. :)

   



ridenrain @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:05 pm

The only allies I'm worried about is the US and the UK. None of the other Euro-weenies told us they had notes from their mommies that they couldn't fight. Putting a thousand troops in a safe zone just eats up resources that could go to the folks actually doing the work.

   



roger-roger @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:07 pm

:evil: some countries, like Portugal should stay in KAF.

   



Reverend Blair @ Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:54 pm

Wow, a huge, politically motivated flip-flop. A few months he wouldn't answer this question in the House. He wouldn't even say if he'd discussed it with our allies. Now he makes the announcement at a breakfast meeting?

Internal polling must have shown his Quebec vote collapsing.

   



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