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Should Governments rescind the noble lie of religions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDNHM84lBA0

These lies were and are given to insure social harmony in an uneducated and gullible population. Our Governments lie and allow liars to lie to us of the supernatural, fantasy and magic.

Governments learned a long ago that religions were a good tool to use for social manipulation and control. Governments allowed and encouraged belief in fantasy, miracles and magic, the opium of the masses, and have lived with the drugged up population and religions.

Governments, with this noble lie, have maintained the current idiocy of immoral teachings within religions and have caused much unjust discrimination and denigration of innocent populations of Gays, women and many others, for just doing what we now see as moral.

Do you think we have matured enough as a people that we can now rescind the laws that protect religions and gives them a tax haven and legitimacy?

Are we intelligent enough to not need these lies anymore?

Can the population take our real reality or is the Government just going to let the flim-flam con game of religions to continue to damage the mental capabilities of the citizens in our country?

Flim-flam and con artists are subject to the law of the land. --- except for religions.

Can the population of Canada take the truth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4QXOgVf ... r_embedded


Regards
DL

   

Well, down here, we have something along these lines.



If you think your elected officials are lying, don't reelect them.

   

Hey Frenchie,
Religion predates government so your premise is false.

Have a nice day.

   

As long as I'm not forced to 'believe' in one religion or another by government, I could care less what everyone else believes. To each their own...

   

I agree that freedom of rel;igion should be rescinded from our Constitution. All it does is give members of Big Religion special rights above and beyond those of atheists, agnostics and smaller religions.

The Constitution already has freedom of thought, conscience, speech, assembly, etc.

   

Tax exempt is a law respecting religion IMO.

The issue is more Government allowing the con game to continue when all thinkers know it is a con game.

Religions do not deserve to be exempt from laws that the rest of us have to follow.

Regards
DL

   

They grew together for those of us who can think and who came first is not at issue. Ending religious con games and protecting our citizens is.

The old King/God ruled and government and religion were too close to divide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1wIEGnPWo

Regards
DL

   

No social conscience at all. Not even for your children and grandchildren I see.
Quite the citizen you are.

It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists as well as those who do not believe. They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief or not. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic are evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClU ... playnext=1

They also do much harm to their own.

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXr ... re=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv8tv62yGM

Promoting death to Gays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_B ... re=related

For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

If you could not care less as you say, then you are one of the evil ones.

Regards
DL

   

I'm sorry but your dead wrong here. As long as government and religion are kept separate as per the first amendment religious and non religious people alike should be free to do as they please so long as they remain free from harming others or themselves.

As for churches being tax free that's a legitimate debate. So long as they write off most of the charity work they do however you'll find that most churches wouldn't pay tax anyway.

The priests and the ministers however should most definitely find their salary taxed. The amount and type of write offs they get here in Canada is a bit stupid to say the least.

   

But not the freedom for the tax payer to opt out or supporting those who are not doing us any good and I agree that they should not have that right or any other special consideration.

Regards
DL

   

You understand the US doesn't have church tax right? There are no deductions automatically taken from your paycheck for your "faith" like there are in some countries. The first amendment likely has a lot do with that.

   

On your last we agree.

I would not say we are apart while we pay their tax burden.

FMPOV, religious people have no right to lie to children and adults with the thumbs up from government and the rest of us.
That is institutionalized abuse for children Gays and women IMO.

Regards
DL

   

Bull. They do not pay their fair share of taxes and the shortfall has to come from the other tax payers.

Regards
DL

   

Yes, you're right. But not the way you think. In the USA churches were always tax exempt and then in the 1950's then-Senator Lyndon B. Johnson pushed legislation that created the 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status that required all churches to be silent on political matters or else they'd be subject to taxes.

Naturally, this doesn't apply to churches that support Democrats.



You atheists are always a bunch of fun. If only Christians invested as much effort in their faith as you do then the world would be a better place.

Seriously, you say you don't believe in God yet you fight Him with more faith and conviction than most people invest believing in Him.



You can start a non-profit 501(c)(3) if you want so I'm not sure how you can say that religions are exempt from laws that allow anyone else to do the same thing if they want.

I'm curious, the 'D' in your name wouldn't happen to stand for 'Derby', would it?

   

It's only institutionalized if the government gives money directly to the church for those causes. This is simply not the case. Most Christians don't think any less of women (despite what both Yahweh and Jesus tell them) and a large amount are even supportive of gay people. Trust me as a former minister in training turned gay atheist I have a pretty good picture of both sides of the field.

That and what are you so afraid of? We have the facts on our side and in the age of information those facts are easier to access then ever before. There are more non religious people now in the western world then there has been in a long time and the numbers are only growing.

If someone simply tells you that anything you have to say on religion is invalid because you must have had a bad experience or your someone the church labels as a sinner you simply point out that has no bearing on if your facts or true or not and call them to recognize that. If they fail to do so you simply walk away as that person isn't worth your time.

Screaming that everyone is evil without showing the problems of religious thinking is not only totally wrong (most religious people separate religion from their lives outside worship) but doesn't solve anything or present any real evidence.

If you want to claim that religion is poison or it's lying to people then the burden of proof is on you to show that as the case. If your familiar with Christopher Hitchens I suggest you go look at his works again so you know what not to do. If not now's the time to go see a fantastic mind take apart religious claims one screw at a time.

   

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