Rethinking Autism
Scape @ Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:55 pm
Should it even be considered as a mental disorder?
I'd agree with that. It certainly appears to be much different than many other 'disorders'.
Newfy @ Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:37 pm
And how much experience do either of you have with someone with Autism?
My son is autistic...and he works at the regional library ...people have said
many things to me over the years such as ....how do you live with someone like him.
So my answer to them is..someone like what, after they are done stammering out some kind of stupid reply as to what they think autisim is what I tell them is.....take a good look at my boy see how happy he is, he is like that everyday of his life!...So who has it right us or him.
So I would have to say yes ...it is no more then a different way of being human. 
Newfy Newfy:
And how much experience do either of you have with someone with Autism?
I have twenty seven years worth.
As the father of an Autistic Child.. my 10 year old is Mildly autistic within the spectrum.. Before he was 18 month old he had a vocabulary of probably 10 words he had mastered Mama and Dada.. and knew what they ment. He would call for his mom.. I would show up and he'd say noo Mama.. or he would call me dada... Shortly after his 18th month shots... wham he lost all ability to speak.. nothing just shrieks and screams, by the time he had turned 3 years old we had 2 diagnosises 1 not autistic just a developmental delay.. then finally at the age of three AUTISM. That diagnosis hit like a hammer...especially since my wife was pregnant with our second child at that time. (His path has been far different than of his older brother)
Ever since then we have poured money and our lives into his development. A Modified ABA program, speech pathologists working with him 2-3 times per week, OBE's.. behavoral interventionalists.. working with other behaviour issues. Pyschologists etc etc etc. I am quite certain that if we did not pour the amount of funding and give hime the development that he now has . 1. He would not be speaking and 2. he would have not social ability or social control.
He now attends Grade 5 with his peers.. works in a class with a special learning assistant. Does his homework. Plays soccer and hockey now played baseball but hated it cause there wasn't enough action for him, he wants to play in the NHL when he gets older.
Sometimes he has about a three second processing delay. you ask him something and he has to think about it before really giving you back the answer.
Yes the woman in the clip "Managed to get through life" with very little help and somehow she managed to get into an position using her ability.
My favourite explanation was the one from the fifties and Sixties that it was obviously becuase of "Uncaring mothers"... finally we put that down the toilet.. flush it away... it is a genetic or a neural disorder that now affect 1 in 160 births used to be 1 in 5000 ( hmm why is the number going down)
Still think it is due to the shots our children are receiving... Smething within that shot is crossing the blood brain barrier.. how many times in your life will you contract 6 deadly diseases ALL at the same time.
Autistic people are people with Autism it is a neural disorder not a badge of pride. I love my son .. he will always be autistic.. Autistic pride parades?????
I realize that and he knows that. Nothing can change what has happened in his life to make him autistic.. but he doesn't have fragile X or any other genetic traits that could link him to autism but his diagnosis places him in that specrtrum group. So he is Autistic. He has pride.. he's a 10 year old Canadian who happens to be afflicted with a disorder that he is working his way through.
I would never think of him as being defective or whatever.. I think of him as a ten year old boy who will have more challanges than his 6 year old brother. He's my little ten year old.. and I love him.
And in accordance with that doctor (with 25 years experience) and the other person of equivelant stature (A LIFE TIME) I might put some merit into what they have to say. Anything else there newfy?
Newfy @ Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:50 pm
fatbasturd fatbasturd:
Newfy Newfy:
And how much experience do either of you have with someone with Autism?
I have twenty seven years worth.
Well I'm only at the beginning of understanding Autism as my 3 year old son has just recently been diagnosed with it. I know he can grow up to lead a perfectly normal life like the rest of us, but I would not say he is like any other child his age. I know I have nowhere near as many years experience with it as you but at the same time every Autistic child is different and there is a whole spectrum that they can range on.
twister twister:
As the father of an Autistic Child.. my 10 year old is Mildly autistic within the spectrum.. Before he was 18 month old he had a vocabulary of probably 10 words he had mastered Mama and Dada.. and knew what they men. Shortly after his 18th month shot... wham he lost all ability to speak.. nothing just shrieks and screams, by the time he had turned 3 years old we had 2 diagnosises 1 not autistic just a developmental delay.. then finally at the age of three AUTISM. That diagnosis hit like a hammer...especially since my wife was preganat with our second child at that time. (His path has been far different than of his older brother)
Ever since then we have poured money into his development. a Modified ABA program, speech pathologistss working with him 2-3 times per week, OBE's.. behavoral interventionalists.. working with other behaviour issues. Pyschologists etc etc etc. I am quite certain that if we did not pour the amount of funding and give hime the development that he now has . 1. He would not be speaking and 2. he would have not social ability or social control.
Yes the woman in the clip "Managed to get through life" with very little help and somehow she managed to get into an position using her ability.
Autistic people are people with Autism it is a neural disorder not a badge of pride. I love my son .. he will always be autistic.. I realize that and he knows that. Nothing can change what has happened in his life to make him autistic.. but he doesn't have fragile X or any other genetic traits that could link him to autism but his diagnosis places him in that specrtrum group.
I would never think of him as being defective or whatever.. I think of him as a ten year old boy who will have more challanges than his 6 year old brother. He's my little ten year old.. and I love him.
At three years of age my son stopped talking for over two years, he was diagnosed
as having asperger's syndrome also a mild form of Autisim.
I am happy to say that with years of hard work and love my son is now an independent young man who has much to offer the world.
My wife is a special needs teacher in the PE school system.
Newfy Newfy:
fatbasturd fatbasturd:
Newfy Newfy:
And how much experience do either of you have with someone with Autism?
I have twenty seven years worth.
Well I'm only at the beginning of understanding Autism as my 3 year old son has just recently been diagnosed with it. I know he can grow up to lead a perfectly normal life like the rest of us, but I would not say he is like any other child his age. I know I have nowhere near as many years experience with it as you but at the same time every Autistic child is different and there is a whole spectrum that they can range on.

You are in for many great experiences and smiles my freind....as he grows older you will learn to see the world from a new perspective.My son has taught me as much as I have taught him, and humbled me many times.
It can and will seem like a burden somedays...but he is your son , he is the way he is, enjoy him
Newfy @ Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:04 pm
We've only been told that our son has Autistic Spectrum Disorder, they can't say where he is on the spectrum yet. He can't talk properly yet, but is learning more and more words every day using PECKS. He also has has trouble staying focused on one thing at a time, he has a compulsive disorder as well and can be quite violent when he gets frustrated but he is still my little man.
lily lily:
One of my son's best friends had to wait till he was in grade 2 or 3 (8-9) before he was finally diagnosed with Asperger's. Like your son, he's now doing a lot better, but he still can't handle spontaneous changes in his routine and won't have sleepovers. He also has other issues, but for the most part he's able to fit in with his friends a lot better than before.
He's 12 now.
Yes even to this day changes in my sons routine are not easy for him....but what he has learned is that they are sometimes needed.
As someone who has Aspergers grows older .....it seems they blend in smoother .My son tells me in some scocial stituations he still does not know what the proper behavior called for means....but that he knows he can fake it just fine.....how different does that sound than most of us.
Newfy Newfy:
We've only been told that our son has Autistic Spectrum Disorder, they can't say where he is on the spectrum yet. He can't talk properly yet, but is learning more and more words every day using PECKS. He also has has trouble staying focused on one thing at a time, he has a compulsive disorder as well and can be quite violent when he gets frustrated but he is still my little man.

would you believe me if I told you that even to this day I still call my son "little man"
We placed Nolan on a wheat free Gluten free diet ( choices market rules) increased his vitamin supplements. He doesn't drink diary.. only Soy milk. that was.. many years ago.
Now at the age of ten.. he still drinks soy milk no dairy. But he eats everything.. love sushi, loves pizza, loves corn.. we go to giants games.. chicken burger fries and a coke.. watches the game intently... except for a few subtle things.. (flaps his hands when he gets really excited or his processing takes a little longer than usual.. you could not tell as a person just meeting him that there is any difference between him our any other 10 year old..But spend more than 5 minutes with him and you'll begin to notice the little differences. Also you'd notice the obvious: he's 3 inches taller than most in his class is stong physically and bigger in size/ stature.. he looks like a 12 year old.... but he's 10.... but my 6 year old who is not autistic is about 2-3 inches taller than his peers... I've got BIG KIDS.
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Newfy @ Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:19 pm
fatbasturd fatbasturd:
Newfy Newfy:
We've only been told that our son has Autistic Spectrum Disorder, they can't say where he is on the spectrum yet. He can't talk properly yet, but is learning more and more words every day using PECKS. He also has has trouble staying focused on one thing at a time, he has a compulsive disorder as well and can be quite violent when he gets frustrated but he is still my little man.

would you believe me if I told you that even to this day I still call my son "little man"
I could believe that. The main thing that worries us is that he is going to get the help he needs in school. The government here gives a school funding to pay for a qualified person to give one to one support to a child with Autism but we've been told by another parent at the same school my son will be going to that they got the dinner lady to look after their child. It's that sort of thing that worries me.