Action on Beef Ban

There will be nothing done at the federal level about this issue, absolutely nothing. Sure they may pay some lip service to it saying they are going to free up a few million dollars but that is about it. dont expect them to try anything else over and above talking about it.

WarHampster is one of those people that thinks Canada can do no right, and other countries can do no wrong. :roll:

Hey Warhawkster why cant we ban American pruducts that we can make ourselves? It will help Canada a lot and wont hurt the U.S. in the least.

Like what? 1/2 of the parts needed to assemble cars made in Canada, go ahead shoot the other foot off.

With all the anti Bush, anti American crap comming out of this Canadian site, is there any wonder why the US is not in too big of a hurry to open the border to Can. beef? You should be selling it to your French buddies and all your other allies that will defend you if the US was to invade. If they can not help you out on beef and wood, do you really think they would help you with a war against the US? Sometimes being anti US has a price, and it seems like this may be one of those times.

Just because we have some loud mothed idiots in office in Ottawa doesn't mean they speak for all of Canada. And how can one small protectionist group based in a redneck state like Montana have the power to overthrow a Government decision?

The reasons they give for the ban not to be lifted are totally unfounded. They have no scientific backing to what they are saying. The only reason those three other cases were found is because Alberta is testing 5 times more cattle than they are required to in the BSE program, so you test that many cattle you are bound to find some. How many cattle does the US test???? Compare science not the amount of money you have to influence government and the courts. R-CALF are just a bunch of millionare US ranchers that are trying to keep the border closed to Canadain beef to bolster the cattle prices in the US and make exorbitant(sp) profits.

Ask the packing companies down there if the US producers can handle the demand for cattle? The answer is NO. They are laying off staff as there is not enough product to supply the demand.

"It was all about the Food for Oil program and the Desmarais families ties to Paul Martin and other Liberal fodderers earning major money off the backs of poor people in Iraq."

Is this the real reason that Canada did not support the US in Iraq?

R-CALF While it is true that there may be some millionaires in R-Calf most are just plain ranchers trying to make ends meet. Since the border is closed, I am recieving approx. $200 more for my calves than before. I usaully sell around 50 calves, so this does not make me a millionair, but I still want the border closed. If mad cow was discovered in Montana, my cattle would be worth practically nothing. So keep em in Canada.

Exactly my point, R-CALF is a protectionist organization that is not basing thier argument on science. They are not loooking at the fact that the rest of the world sees the Canada/US cattle industry as one big unit, not seperated like we know. There are other countries right now that are opening thier borders again to Canadian cattle under 30 months but not to the US's, why is this? Becasue Canada has proven thier action against BSE goes above and beyond what is required for the amount of cattle we have.

Alberta alone is testing 8x the amount we have to according to the Alberta and Canadian government's. If you test that many, chances are you are going to find some.

Also if Canadian cattle, or better yet Alberta cattle are at such HIGH RISK for BSE then why are there so many ranchers up here from Montana buying them at auctions? Every auction I have been to in the last 6 months, there have been US ranchers up here buying Alberta cattle and feeding them here. Can you explain this?

I love these boycott threads. Buying Canadian is always good, just as buying American is good for Americans.

I will let you do the math on who comes out on top if each country refuses to buy the others' products. Before you start the analysis, remember that they have 10x the population and we have a trade surplus in the billions with the US.

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I know it doesn't solve all the problems, but buying directly from the rancher sure helps. I know this one rancher who started a shop just outside of Marklark where I live and it's helped him stave off bankruptcy.

Now I am not saying this will work for everyone, but it sucks when most of the meat packing plants in the country are not Cdn owned... it ends up hurting us all.