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I just wanted to show you all this on why NDP is the best, and why you should start voting NDP. NDP does this all the time, they are all about the betterment of Canada. I don't really understand why people don't go NDP. I just assumed that they just aren't educated about what NDP does, so let me educate you all.

A legislation bill was open about Animal Cruelty, This bill is meant to basicly dodge the Animal Cruelty laws, just by upgrading the fines by 20 dollars. Basicly our Animal Cruelty laws were the same as the 1800's. Who all votes yes for this bill? Majority of them were Liberals, and Conservatives. Who were the Majority who voted no? NDP. Where did I get those stats you will ask.

The International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW), the Canadian Federation of Humane Societies (CFHS) and the World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) launched the website www.dontbecruel.ca today. The website’s purpose is to highlight the position of voting MPs on animal cruelty and to hold them accountable for it.

The details on who voted yes, and who voted no can be found on there website.

On Wednesday April 9th, MPs participated in a recorded vote on Bill S-203. If the bill passes it will be sent for Royal Assent and then become a law. Animal welfare groups from across the country as well as the strong majority of Canadians oppose this legislation, going so far as to say that a vote for Bill S-203 is a “vote for animal cruelty” as it fails to address the loopholes in the current law which allow animal abuse to go unpunished.

S-203 increases penalties but does nothing to fix the serious problems in the offences. “S-203 is not based on broad consultation, it doesn’t address the flaws in the current law and, not surprisingly, it is not widely supported in this country. Canadians expect modern legislation to protect animals from criminal cruelty – not a quick fix to a law that was passed in Queen Victoria’s era” reinforced Kim Elmslie from the International Fund for Animal Welfare.

MPs who voted in favor of S-203 have turned their back on all those Canadians who said they want and expect strong and effective laws for the prevention of cruelty to animals. Eight years of work towards a new animal cruelty law cannot end with S-203! Clearly, MPs who vote for S-203 are choosing the lazy way out. Unfortunately, it’s the animals that will pay the price as this legislation does nothing to improve the chance of convicting animal abusers.

   

I also want to state that I am not saying Liberals or Conservatives are evil and want Animal Cruelty, as a lot of Liberals did vote against it. However the majority of Liberals voted for it, expecially the Conservatives. Majority of the NDP voted against it, Infact there is only one NDP vote for yes. Which was a Scarborough MP.

   

What did the bill say?

   

I think there are more pressing issues at hand than animal cruelty. Whats the ndp want next voting rights for animals!

   

So the NDP will put a great effort into protecting animals while they simultaneously put a great effort into ensuring the 'right' of women to have their pre-born children dismembered in the womb absent any anaesthesia.

Lovely.

   

I am evil and want Animal Cruelty, and want to legalize hunting with land mines in urban parks.

   

Land mines for hunting....cool idea!

   

It takes all the boring waiting out of hunting. Set the mines, go back and watch TV untill you hear a boom. Then come back and pick up the grill sized pieces.

   

ridenrain

Yeah I fish with a Dupont Wobbler.

   

Right some Animal's don't deserve to be treated fairly right? It's fair game when you are allowed to torture and kill animals with nobody caring about it but wait, wouldn't that make us animals as well?

   

Well, if all those other animals had decided to go bipedal, create awesome stone tools, wander the globe for tens of thousands of years, and invent electrified prods, automatic rifles, land mines, nukes and napalm before us, I bet they'd do the same thing!


Yes, there's horrid, disgusting, distasteful and destructive things happening to various animal species, but at this point in time there's more serious things to deal with, such as ensuring the public safety of our citizens at home and getting the best protection to our armed forces personnel abroad. Or how about the enormous amount of domestic violence that still goes on today? I'd rather have the government thinking about overcrowded hospitals than a circus bear in a tutu. I love animals to death, it pains me to see the mutilation and harm that comes to them, but I had a harder time looking at my buddy with 3 holes in his gut.

   

That is biased, you know the world doesn't focus on a one tracked mind. The point of this thread was that the MP's had a chance to fix Animal Rights once and for all, and they chose the easy and lazy way out.

You can focus on the war, or whatever other issues there are and still focus on Animal Rights. Just ignoring the issue makes me wonder about our civilization. We preach to China about fixing there Human Rights, and Animal Rights while we don't even have the curtosy of fixing our Animal Rights. Pretty much the same response comes up. "We have more bigger issues to worry about". I think you would be a fine politician

   

Seriously: this would be worst than another constitutional debate. We all agree that animal cruelty is bad but what abut hunting seals? Is keeping a tropical reptile or a large dog in an appartment cruel also?

It also looks like most vets like it also:

http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/ ... 36&k=19298

   

That's not Canada, I am talking about Canada. American NDP is the ones voting for that, Canadian NDP doesn't vote in American bills.

   

NDP never stated hunting seals was a good thing. Neither did I. Hunting Seals is a animal cruelty, except it gets ignored because its also a profitable animal cruelty.

Also about the apartment thing, it all depends on the apartment. If you got a park or something near by that you can take the dog for long walks then in my opinion that is ok but there is a reason that people don't like pets being in apartments or owners to have pets in them (Not regarding to the people who own them, refering to regular people)

The dog won't be outside 24/7, as the owners will always have a life and you can't take the dog everywhere you go so most case scenario is the dog will be in there for a large period of the time. In a very small apartment with no where to run around. In human cases, that's basicly prison. Being trapped in a small area with no room to do anything.

Though what's really cruel about that is most case scenario for apartment pet owners is they aren't allowed to keep them so they got to give them away. They usually give them away to places who have a record of animal abuse basicly, and most cases are they are stuck in a very small cage for the rest of there lives because those organizations are very low funded and rarely get much attention.

Have you ever seen a case where a human being was sent to a cage for the rest of his life, so small that he had no room to stretch all because the previous people he lived with diddn't want him anymore? Such a case doesn't exist for modern human beings, only animals. You need to kill somebody or do something illegal but however they atleast get yard time and deserve to be there.

   

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