Another Muslim says something I agree with
andyt @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:18 pm
Totally different context, so I started a new post: About the Muslims wanting their kids not to take music and PE, Mahfooz Kanwar, a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress says:
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"I'd tell them, this is Canada, and in Canada, we teach music and physical education in our schools. If you don't like it, leave. If you want to live under sharia law, go back to the hellhole country you came from or go to another hellhole country that lives under sharia law," said Kanwar, who is a professor emeritus of sociology at Mount Royal University in Calgary.
That might be putting things forcefully, but Kanwar says he is tired of hearing about such out-of-tune demands from newcomers to our country. "Immigrants to Canada should adjust to Canada, not the other way around," he argues.
Kanwar, who immigrated to Canada from Pakistan in 1966, says he used to buy into the "mosaic, official multiculturalism [nonsense]."
He makes it clear he is pleased and enjoys that Canada has citizens from every country and corner in the world, as it has enriched this country. But it's official multiculturalism -the state policy "that entrenches the lie" all cultures and beliefs are of equal value and of equal validity in Canada - that he objects to.
"Canada has an enviable culture based on Judeo-Christian values -not Muslim values -with British and French rule of law and traditions and that's why it's better than all of the other places in the world. We are heading down a dangerous path if we allow the idea that sharia law has a place in Canada. It does not. It is completely incompatible with the idea and reality of Canada," says Kanwar, who was the founder and president of the Pakistan-Canada Association and a big fan of official multiculturalism. Kanwar says his views changed when the people who joined his group badmouth Canada. They weren't interested in knowing Canadians or even in learning one of our official languages. They created cultural ghettos and the Canadian government helped fund it.
Kanwar started speaking out against the dangers of official multiculturalism and has been doing so ever since.
Read more:
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Time ... z1E3Zjbw8R
QBC @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:36 pm
I agree with what he's saying also.
Choban @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:49 pm
Nice to see more and more immigrants speaking out against the rediculouse demands made by newcomers to our country, if more voices like his were raised maybe more would be heard, Unfortunately I think at this point I feel they are still the minority, but if he changes only 1 or 2 peoples minds than good has come from it.
andyt @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:55 pm
Since he's part of the Muslim Canadian Congress, I', sure they would have kicked him out if they didn't think something similar. So there is a voice for this. There's another guy who says similar things, forget his name.
I think our media just need to do a better job of giving a buy like this a voice, instead of only reporting what the nutbars said.
Brenda @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:08 pm
A lot of immigrants say the same. A lot of people residing in this country say the same. Not all are immigrants, some are on a work permit, others are expats.
You just do not hear about it. It is no news. It is only news when it is negative.
Sociology prof warns multiculturalism 'creates nations within a nation'
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"He was saying in Urdu (the official language of Pakistan): 'Oh, God, protect us from the infidels, who pollute us with their vile ways,'" recalls Kanwar, a professor of sociology at Mount Royal College in Calgary.
"I stood up and grabbed him by the lapels, which was shocking even to me because I have never done anything like that in my life and I said: 'How dare you attack my country.' And then I addressed the crowd and said: 'I have known this man for more than 30 years and he has been on welfare for almost all of those years.' "
Kanwar chuckles at the memory.
"Then I said to this semi-literate man, 'you should thank me and those you call infidels.'
"He asked me why and I said: 'Because the taxes I pay are putting food on your table as are the taxes of the so-called "infidels.' "
Most Canadians and many Muslims would applaud Dr. Kanwar's righteous outburst. But guess which of the two men is no longer welcome at the Sarcee Tr. S.W. mosque?
I can't find the original article online to confirm its accuracy, but this is the same guy, from 2006.
andyt @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:41 pm
And as he says, to paraphrase, if this guy wants protection from the infidels, what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Choban Choban:
Nice to see more and more immigrants speaking out against the rediculouse demands made by newcomers to our country, if more voices like his were raised maybe more would be heard, Unfortunately I think at this point I feel they are still the minority, but if he changes only 1 or 2 peoples minds than good has come from it.
I agree with the guy in the sense that these people should put their odd issues with Music/PE behind them, but I gotta ask: How is their request a "Demand"? It is at most a request to be dismissed from a Class(es). If they had insisted that such Classes be ceased, then I'd agree with you, however, that is not close to being the case.
What the hell is going on with this page? It's HUGE.
Brenda @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:47 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
What the hell is going on with this page? It's HUGE.
Andy "fuuuuuuuuuck"-ed up
2Cdo @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:49 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
What the hell is going on with this page? It's HUGE.
I thought it was just my computer going a little funky on me! Apparently my computer is fine, it's the page that got real funky. This all started with andy's last post, so he fucked this all up!
andyt andyt:
And as he says, to paraphrase, if this guy wants protection from the infidels, what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu <SNIP> is that leech doing here
Andy.. You broke the Internet.
andyt @ Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:51 pm
Fixed it. Hate it when people do that, I just got carried away.
Curtman Curtman:
andyt andyt:
And as he says, to paraphrase, if this guy wants protection from the infidels, what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu <SNIP> is that leech doing here
Andy.. You broke the Internet.
He broke Internet Exploder. Word wrap works fine in Mozilla.
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
He broke Internet Exploder. Word wrap works fine in Mozilla.
Chromium went haywire.. No Internet Exploder in Linux.