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None of those immigrants want to move to Alberta either. They's all just rather crowd into Toronto and Vancouver. Funny, that.

   

It's easy to say "bullshit" but the real bullshit is the passport shopping that enables 50,000 Canadian citizens to live in a country with 3 million people and that 50,000 is more than the rest of the entire non Arab world combined.

What is really frightening is that 50K is just Lebanon. God knows how many hundreds of thousands are living in the rest of the world.

The Spectator - Hamilton, Ont. Author: Daniel Nolan Date: Sep 21, 2006

The evacuation of about 15,000 Canadians from Lebanon during the Hezbollah-Israel conflict is reported to have cost taxpayers $85 million.

Canada hired several ships and chartered aircraft to ferry about one-third of the estimated 50,000 Canadians living in Lebanon to safety between July 19 and mid-August.

But sources have told CTV News about the cost and also that about 7,000 evacuees have returned to Lebanon since hostilities ended between Israel and the guerrilla group. The government won't comment.

The revelation has led Halton Conservative MP Garth Turner to call for revamping citizenship rules because taxpayers "have every right in the world to be ticked at what happened."

The head of the Hamilton Council of Canadian Arabs, who is from Lebanon, said Turner's comment have racist undertones and that he wouldn't be making any remarks if "it wasn't Arabs/Muslims."

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It's obvious that you don't live in Vancouver, or you wouldn't be saying that passport shopping is the backbone of our immigration system. Nowhere near. Remember we let in 250,000 of them every year. I don't dispute your figures, only that they are nowhere near the backbone of the system. I'm more worried that we are flooding the country (parts of it, anyway) with people who can't speak English, have created enclaves where they don't even have to know how to speak English, are supposedly brought in because of our skills shortage but often just seem to work menial jobs, driving down wages for the lower income end, exactly where a wage increase is needed.

   

Not really. A substantial number do that.
21 ad hr in Edmonton.
21 - 52 weeks- 40 k max - Rent 12 -1400 per - signed lease, and hope that they do not have bedbugs.
Cost of living in an Oil economy is high.
I know I live here.
Some are lazy, some are not and they are in Ft Mac, Ft St John, Sask or other camps making better money for unskilled work.
In Canada we are accepting to many unskilled, and those that are skilled, well they do not meet Cdn certification. Instead of bringing these people in and supporting them in one way or another to gain that certification is another bogus problem with Immigration.
But few families, and probably singles are moving here for 21 bucks an hr.

A number of years back the City of Edmonton was using lands set aside for schools or something like that, prov controlled and turned over to the city. It was decided when the lands became city property it would be used for housing, infilling to utilize the land efficiently.

This program raised pure hell and a major stink about loss of property values, changes to the neighborhood.

Do you know who the city was targeting.
Nurses, teachers etc in the 60-70 k per year range. And that my friend was probably 5 years ago.
That in itself is quite telling of the issues that AB faces.

   

I don't know how to respond to that. The quote doesn't seem to have anything to do with your response, and I can't make out what your response it trying to say.

   

The first part was about citizens of convenience, after that it was in regards to cost of living in AB.
Calgary, Edmonton, Ft Mac, and Slave lake are very expensive cities to live in.
So for someone to move here to make 40 k, they are single.
If married wth kids, on that income, both work, daycare is expensive.

Now to the point about Lebanon.
A substantial number after gaining citizenship, return to their former country. Dual citizens.
Perhaps Canada should follow the US and require Canadians, living -working outside of the country to file a tax return.
Failure to file, if an immigrant with citizenship, could entail moving back down the ladder to landed immigrant status.

Next your point on immigrant to TO - Vancouver- and such.
A larger number of immigrant move to the West for the job opportunities.
Edmonton / Calgary and others has seen a large rise in ethnic communities. Immigrants picking the West over TO and other places.

Lastly is about a report from Stats Can a number of years back regarding worker shortage and prior to the bust that hit everyone.

A larger number of married couples, 1 a high income worker, the spouse could afford not to work.
Those numbers were close, only in numbers of the worker shortage in AB at that specific time.

   

Same here.

   

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