Absolutely disgusting
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Christian girls beheaded in grisly Indonesian attack
October 29, 2005 - 7:01PM
Three teenage Christian girls were beheaded and a fourth was seriously wounded in a savage attack on Saturday by unidentified assailants in the Indonesian province of Central Sulawesi.
The girls were among a group of students from a private Christian high school who were ambushed while walking through a cocoa plantation in Poso Kota subdistrict on their way to class, police Major Riky Naldo said.
The area is close to the provincial capital of Poso, about 1000 kilometres northeast of Jakarta.
Naldo said the heads of the three dead victims were found several kilometres from their bodies.
In Jakarta, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono ordered the police to begin a hunt for the killers.
"In the holy month of Ramadan, we are again shocked by a sadistic crime in Poso that claimed the lives of three school students," he told reporters at the airport as he prepared to fly to Sumatra island.
"I condemn this barbarous killing, whoever the perpetrators are and whatever their motives."
He ordered the security forces to find the killers and maintain order in the region.
Indonesia is the world's most populous Muslim nation, but Central Sulawesi has a roughly equal number of Muslims and Christians. The province was the scene of a bloody religious war in 2001-2002 that killed around 1000 people from both communities.
At the time, beheadings, burnings and other atrocities were common.
A government-mediated truce succeeded in ending the conflict in early 2002, but there have since been a series of bomb attacks and assassinations of Christians.
These included a blast at a market in Poso, a predominantly Christian town, that killed 22 people in May.
Christian leaders have repeatedly accused the authorities in Jakarta of not doing enough to find the perpetrators and bring them to justice.
The Christian-Muslim conflict in Sulawesi was an extension of a wider sectarian war in the nearby Maluku archipelago in which up to 9000 perished between 1999 and 2002.
The Maluku conflict intensified soon after it began with the arrival of volunteers belonging to Laskar Jihad, a newly created militia from Indonesia's main island of Java that was supported by hardline elements of the security forces.
Analysts and diplomats accused senior army commanders of funding and training the militia, which was hurriedly disbanded following the terrorist attacks on the tourist island of Bali in 2002 which claimed 202 lives, including 88 Australians.
AP
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xerxes @ Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:08 pm
And the cycle continues...
Not for those three completely innocent girls.
It's one thing to conduct a war resulting in accidental civilian deaths; it's another thing to arbitrarily prey on the most innocent and most vulnerable.
Both things are unfortunate, though.
May God bless the beautiful souls of those three girls.
agreed, war against another armed person is one thing, simply slaughtering an unarmed civilian is totally different. I sincerely hope the people responsible for this pay for their crimes.
Constantinople Constantinople:
It's one thing to conduct a war resulting in accidental civilian deaths; it's another thing to arbitrarily prey on the most innocent and most vulnerable.
No it isn't. There's no difference at all between "accidental civilian deaths" and the deliberate killing of "innocents." They wind up just as dead, whether they were killed accidentally or on purpose.
You're right, it is sad, but no more so than a child blown to pieces accidentally by Amercian ordinance in Iraq.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Constantinople Constantinople:
It's one thing to conduct a war resulting in accidental civilian deaths; it's another thing to arbitrarily prey on the most innocent and most vulnerable.
No it isn't. There's no difference at all between "accidental civilian deaths" and the deliberate killing of "innocents." They wind up just as dead, whether they were killed accidentally or on purpose.
You're right, it is sad, but no more so than a child blown to pieces accidentally by Amercian ordinance in Iraq.
No, it's actually worse to purposefully take three innocent teenage girls and saw their heads off than to drop bombs on an enemy where civilians might be killed by accident.
So you must be one of those people that think someone who accidentally kills their brother in a hunting accident deserves to be sentenced the same as a murderer who deliberately kills someone's brother.
Accidentally and deliberately must be one and the same in your naive dictionary.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
No it isn't. There's no difference at all between "accidental civilian deaths" and the deliberate killing of "innocents."
Yes there is. You just said it in your contradictory response. One is an accident, the other is deliberate.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
They wind up just as dead, whether they were killed accidentally or on purpose.
Hmmm, no kidding?
One accomlished nothing, the other killed some of the enemy.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
You're right, it is sad, but no more so than a child blown to pieces accidentally by Amercian ordinance in Iraq.
No, I find it quite a bit more sad that three girls on their way to school were grabbed and someone ripped their heads off. I am sad for the child that was blown to pieces, but at least it wasn't in vain. (if you don't agree with the Iraq war, then relate it to another war)
So dropping bombs on innocent people is forgivable as long as you didn't mean to?
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
So dropping bombs on innocent people is forgivable as long as you didn't mean to?
I didn't say it was forgivable. I am saying it is worse to purposely kill someone for no reason at all than to do it by accident.
Well, not that I'm a big moralist by any means but Americans have "accidentally" killed some 30,000 Iraqis now. That's a lot more than the count of dead Christians deliberately killed in Indonesia in the last three years which is probably what -- a couple of hundred?
The difference between accdientally and deliberately is just a convenient moral nicety, that's all. "Oh, we blew up a a dozen kids? Wow, we're awful sorry about that... Oh we did it again? Sorry 'bout that."
oops. see post below
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I didn't say it was forgivable. I am saying it is worse to purposely kill someone for no reason at all than to do it by accident.
How convenient for you.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Well, not that I'm a big moralist by any means but Americans have "accidentally" killed some 30,000 Iraqis now. That's a lot more than the count of dead Christians deliberately killed in Indonesia in the last three years which is probably what -- a couple of hundred?
The difference between accdientally and deliberately is just a convenient moral nicety, that's all. "Oh, we blew up a a dozen kids? Wow, we're awful sorry about that... Oh we did it again? Sorry 'bout that."
Now you want to go by comparison of numbers?
Fine, 30,000 civilians being deliberately beheaded is worse than 30,000 being killed in bombing sweeps that killed more enemies than civilians.
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
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I didn't say it was forgivable. I am saying it is worse to purposely kill someone for no reason at all than to do it by accident.
How convenient for you.
Try to go somewhere with your statements.
The mothers of the dead civilian children might beg to differ with you there.