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Well put my dear...........

   

What is likely to happen :

Some coalition forces will die.
Some innocent iraqis will die.
The military victory will be relatively quick.
American and coalition forces will be enthusiastically welcomed home after the conflict is over.
Iraqis who have been suffering under Sadam AND sanctions will get the food and medicines they desperately need.
Those who hate the U.S. will use this as an excuse to launch more terror attacks for the foreseeable future.
The United Nations will cease to function in the way that it has up to this point.
International goodwill towards the U.S. will further decline regardless of the war's outcome.
The U.S. will attain a strategic advantage through the creation of a pro western government in Iraq.
The European union , China , and a few other nations will be inclined to strengthen themselves politically, economically and militarily to try and reduce American domination.
There will be increased nationalistic tendencies in most countries.
The U.S. economy will recover within 18 months.
The world will become a much more dangerous place.

   

WELL ITS STARTED NOW FOLKS.. HOPE EVERY ONE IS HAPPY NOW

WASHINGTON ((CNN) -- The "opening stages" of military action against Iraq have begun, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer announced Wednesday night. President Bush will address the nation at 10:15 p.m. ÉT, Fleischer said.

A Pentagon official told CNN that cruise missiles were being fired against "a target of opportunity," but no explosions were heard in Baghdad.

Air raid sirens were heard in Baghdad at about 5:30 a.m. Thursday (9:30 p.m. Wednesday ET) about 90 minutes after the U.S. deadline for Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to step down or face a U.S.-led military attack.

Fleischer's brief announcement came at 9:45 p.m., about an hour and 45 minutes after Bush's deadline passed for Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to leave the country or face military action.

"The opening stages of the disarmament of the Iraqi regime have begun," said Fleischer.

Bush's deadline for Saddam and his sons to leave Iraq passed Wednesday night without any sign the Iraqi leader was prepared to go into exile to avoid a U.S.-led military attack on his country.

"There is no evidence that the Saddam Hussein has left the country," Fleischer said soon after the 8 p.m. ET deadline passed.

"The president's mood this evening is: The American people are ready to disarm Saddam Hussein and they understand what's at stake. The military is ready. Our cause is just."

The United States and Britain have massed nearly 300,000 troops in the Persian Gulf region.

Earlier, Adm. Timothy Keating, commander of the U.S. 5th Fleet, said allied forces were prepared to carry out an "unprecedented" campaign: "If we go, the plans we have are unlike anything anyone has ever seen before."

In the hours leading up to the deadline, about a dozen U.S. and coalition warplanes dropped precision munitions on nearly a dozen Iraqi artillery pieces in the southern no-fly zone that could have been in range of American troops poised to invade southern Iraq, Pentagon officials told CNN.

There was also concern some of the artillery could be capable of using chemical weapons and U.S. planes had been conducting around-the-clock reconnaissance of the sites.

Warplanes also struck Iraqi cable repeater sites and command and control sites. In addition, at least one Al Ababil surface-to-surface missile launcher was struck.

In other developments:

• Seventeen Iraqi soldiers surrendered to U.S. troops Wednesday. They were believed to be the first of their countrymen to give up -- a move the U.S. Air Force has been actively encouraging by showering the Iraqi landscape with more than 2 million leaflets in anticipation of a ground war. (Full story)

• Iraq is unlikely to use chemical or biological weapons to defend itself from a U.S.-led invasion because world opinion would turn against it, chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix said Wednesday. "Saddam Hussein has certainly figured himself to be a sort of emperor of Mesopotamia, and the leader of the Arab world," Blix said. "So I think he very likely cares very much about his reputation." (Full story)

• Pentagon officials said sandstorms in the region could be a problem for U.S. helicopters, which are expected to be a key element of an invasion. They said the Bush administration wants to launch the air campaign and ground assault almost simultaneously. (Full story)

• The king of the Persian Gulf country of Bahrain offered "safe exile" to Saddam, saying he hopes the Iraqi leader "would seriously consider this offer before the onset of war," the government-run Bahrain News Agency said Wednesday. (Full story)

• The Iraqi National Assembly met in "extraordinary session"; legislators backed Saddam and warned the United States that Iraqis would defend their leader. The information minister later said U.S. troops were facing "definite death" if they invade. (Full story)

• Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said Iraq is fully responsible for the current crisis in the Middle East, the Kuwait News Agency said.

• Chaos at the Kuwait City International Airport early Thursday led officials there to close roads into the airport and allow in only employees and ticket-holders, officials said. They also said they would not let anyone else in until the situation calmed down. Video footage of the airport terminal showed it packed with people, and crowds pushed up against ticket counters.

• Bush notified Congress on Wednesday he has made a determination that diplomacy will not work to disarm Saddam -- a condition required under a resolution approved by lawmakers in October authorizing the use of force against Iraq. (Bush's day, text of Bush letter to Congress)

• Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz stood before reporters in Baghdad Wednesday to quiet rumors he had been shot or had asked for political asylum. Aziz blamed the rumors on the U.S.-led coalition. He said people should expect more of the same in the days and months ahead. "We would like to warn you against cheap psychological rumors," Aziz said. "Don't believe them." (Full story)

• A Kuwaiti patrol boat fired at an Iraqi dhow overnight, killing at least one person aboard, according to the commander of the USS Constellation battle group. (Full story)

• Kurds in northern Iraq were fleeing towns and retreating to mountain areas in anticipation of war, and in the southern region dozens of Iraqi dhows were moving through the Straits of Hormuz and out of the Persian Gulf. Baghdad residents have started fleeing the capital. (Mood in Baghdad)

• Turkey's parliament is expected to vote Thursday on the government's request to allow U.S. warplanes to fly over Turkey. But the government will not seek a vote on a U.S. request to use Turkish bases for about 62,000 troops to move against Iraq from the north.

• Blix met with U.N. Security Council member nations to discuss how remaining unresolved issues in Iraq could be settled peacefully. Absent from the meeting were U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and Spanish Foreign Minister Ana Palacio.

• The United States and Britain pledged millions of dollars in humanitarian aid Wednesday to ease the impact of a looming war with Iraq but faced criticism for abandoning diplomatic efforts to resolve the crisis. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan estimated the immediate cost of humanitarian aid in the event of war at $123.5 million.

• Both houses of Italy's parliament Wednesday authorized the government to offer the U.S.-led coalition use of Italian air space and military bases in a conflict with Iraq, but the approval did not include allowing departure points for direct attacks. (Full story)

• Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told Cabinet ministers that the "chance Israel will be hit" during an Iraqi war "is very small, but we have taken all necessary precautions as if we were in genuine danger." (Full story)

CNN correspondents Ryan Chilcote, John King and Barbara Starr contributed to this report. For latest developments, see CNN.com's Iraq Tracker.

   

Fuck 'em..............It's on.........GO HARD.........Let him and his, pay.

FREEDOM TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

I'm feeling patriotic you guys!! I'm serious. It's all good!

   

A weapon that keeps on giving :


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2860759.stm

   

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/03/20_war.html

   

Okay, there is one thing that really pisses me off. Most of the protesters all over the world (and here) seem to think that this war is about oil. This really annoys me because people seem to think that the US wants to steal Iraqi oil. I truly believe that Iraqi oil is not an issue here. I believe that the US government truly wants to FREE the Iraqi people. It's not a personal vandetta against Saddam. It's not because George Bush wants to finish what his father didn't do. It's because this asshole kills his own people and if he had a nuke, he'd fucking use it.

Why does the French now say that they oppose what the US is doing but if chemical or biological weapons are used, they'll join the fight. I say fuck them, you had your chance.

Why does Russia say they oppose what the US is doing, but if they need help, just ask. Well fuck you too.

Let me make one thing perfectly clear...

Canada is the number 1 supplier of oil to the US. We supply 31% of the US's oil. Venuzuala supplies 29%. Do the math, thats 60% of the US's total oil imports. The amount of oil that the US imports from Iraq is miniscule.

They don't need it, and this whole fucking "blood for oil" shit is bull.

   

OH YEAH!!! I'm tired of the protesters too........I've a right mind to head down to the US Consular office and start swingin. I won't 'cause I'm better than that, but doesn't mean I don't wanna shove their protest signs up their dope smokin, long haired, greasy unemployed asses.

No Blood for oil? Like THEY'D have the balls to stand up and fight.

   

just a little note, the protests arn't all hipies, in fact these protests more than any other in history consist of normal people, familes with children even. Also many students, here in BC, all the major Universities walked out in protest.

   

Ya and you might get your ass kicked too........LMFAO

   

[quote="Gangrenous"]Okay, there is one thing that really pisses me off. Most of the protesters all over the world (and here) seem to think that this war is about oil. This really annoys me because people seem to think that the US wants to steal Iraqi oil. I truly believe that Iraqi oil is not an issue here.


Not at the moment , but perhaps Iraq has a bit more oil potential over the long run:

http://www.ott.doe.gov/facts/archives/fotw125.shtml

   

http://www.evworld.com/databases/storyb ... 5&end=3214

   

Very interesting article, i had not heard anything of this Euro business, but it seems to make sense.

   

Just for some clarification here. So if Iraqi military should bombard American and British soldiers with chemical and biological weapons then the french and the Russians shouldn't help because they had their chance to participate in a war that is NOT sanctioned under INTERNATIONAL law?

Have you any comprehension of just what President Bush has done? He has made it acceptable now for any country to do as they please irregardless of acceptability or law.

What this means is that if Isreal decides that they have a problem with the US they can nuke them out of existence. Suddam has proved that Dictators have and do go against their benefactors.

This has gone beyond the right/need/justness of a war with Iraq. This has set a terrifing, horrible precedence around the WORLD. Just remember that Isreal has nuclear capabilities, as does North Korea. Just to mention a few.

The US is not loved around the world. This could possible give many other countries a reason to rethink their acceptance of US led war, US intervention, etc

   

Keep in mind that there will be SOME wonderful business opportunities for SOME after the war ends . Of interest to Canadians will be the comments by the Canadian oil business man's assessment of who get to share in the spoils :

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/ ... dex.html?x

   

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