Are we approaching end times?
Joel C. Rosenberg who was a recent guest of Glen Beck thinks so...based upon current events and biblical prophecies...
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http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread ... Beck-Site/Special Report: Russia, Iran and Bible Prophecy
Russia, Iran and Bible Prophecy
By Joel C. Rosenberg
Does the Bible really predict the rise of a dictator in Russia? Does it really foretell the emergence of a Russian-Iranian alliance against Israel in the End of Days? And if so, is the military, political and economic alliance being formed in recent years by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad evidence that such prophecies are actually coming true in our lifetime? Glenn and I have been discussing these questions all week. But let me lay them out in more detail here for those interested in going a bit deeper.
One of the most fascinating sets of End Times prophecies in the Bible are found in the Book of Ezekiel, chapters 38 and 39. Remarkably, the Hebrew Prophet Ezekiel, writing more than 2,500 years ago, was able to look down the corridors of time and see nations not yet born, and alliances not yet formed. In doing so, he actually did foretell the rise of a Russian military alliance with Iran and other Middle Eastern countries to annihilate Israel during the earth's "last days." This is known by many Bible scholars as the "War of Gog and Magog."
In a moment, I will walk you through the prophecies step-by-step. But first, let me note that the predictions found in Ezekiel chapters 36 & 37 have already come true. These are the famous chapters that foretell:
# The rebirth of the State of Israel in the end times (both chapters)
# The return of the Jews to the Holy Land after centuries in exile (Ezekiel 36:10-11, 36:24, 36:37-38, 37:12, 37:21)
# The rebuilding of the ancient ruins in Israel (Ezekiel 36:36)
# The re-blossoming of desolate, desert lands to produce abundant food, fruit and foliage (Ezekiel 36:8-9 and 36:30-35)
# The creation of an "exceedingly great army" (Ezekiel 37:11)
Such prophecies began to be fulfilled in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, accelerated in 1948 and 1967, and continue to come to pass to this day. This, of course, raises an intriguing question: If Ezekiel 36 and 37 have largely come true in our lifetime, isn't it possible that Ezekiel 38 and 39 will soon come true as well?
WHO?
That said, let's examine Ezekiel 38 and 39 more carefully. In Ezekiel 38:1-6, the Hebrew prophet gives a list of obscure names that will form a united coalition. In my non-fiction book, Epicenter: Why The Current Rumblings In The Middle East Will Change Your Future, I carefully walk readers through these prophecies and document the historical detective work necessary to determine what modern nations are referred to by the ancient text. But here's an executive summary of the major points.
# "Gog" is described as being "of the land of Magog" and as the "prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal." Most Bible scholars believe Gog is not a name but a title, like Pharoah or Czar. He is a dictator who will hatch an "evil plan" (Ezekiel 38:10).
# "Magog" - Leading Bible scholars say this is Russia and republics of the former Soviet Union. The first century Roman historian Josephus said the "Magogites" were the peoples whom the Greeks called "Scythians." Scythians were a fierce, blood-thirsty civilization that settled north of the Baltic Sea in what is now Russia and the European republics of the former USSR.
# "Rosh, Meshech and Tubal" - Many, though not all, Bible scholars believe "Rosh" refers directly to Russia. Meshech is believed by many scholars to be Moscow (though some believe it refers to an ancient people group in Turkey). Some Bible scholars believe Tubal refers to the city/region of Tobolsk in Russia along the Tobol River. Others say it refers to a section of modern-day Turkey. (Interestingly, in 1964, massive reserves of oil and gas were discovered in the Tobolsk region of Siberia and people now refer to the region as the "energy center of Russia.")
# "Persia" - This was the official name of Iran until 1935.
# "Cush" - Based in significant part on the writings of the Roman historian Flavius Josephus, Bible scholars today believe "Cush" refers to Sudan and Ethiopia.
# "Put" - Bible scholars are confident that this refers to the modern day country of Libya, though it may also refer to parts of Algeria and Tunisia, based on the writings of Josephus, among others.
# "Gomer" - This is modern day Turkey, though some scholars also believe it could refer to Germany and Austria.
# "Beth-togarmah" - This refers to Armenia and the Turkic-speaking peoples of Central Asia, including the Islamic former republics of the Soviet Union.
# "Many peoples with you" who will attack along "the mountains of Israel" - Other countries will be involved in the coalition as well, notably countries that border the mountains of Israel. This includes Lebanon, Syria and possibly Jordan.
It should be noted that conspicuously absent from the list is Egypt and Iraq (typically referred to in Scripture as Babylon or Mesapotamia). This is noteworthy since Ezekiel was writing the prophecy in the City of Babylon, in the heart of Iraq. We would have to expect, then, that neither Egypt nor Iraq will participate. Egypt, of course, signed a peace treaty with Israel in 1979. Iraq is now so engrossed in its own internal struggles that it would be unlikely to join a coalition to destroy Israel in the next few years. We are, therefore, living in the first window in human history in which neither of these historic enemies of the Jewish people are likely to be involved in the next major Middle East war.
WHAT?
Ezekiel 38-39 explains that the Russian dictator known as "Gog" will develop an "evil plan" to attack and destroy Israel and seize her wealth. He will begin to build an enormous military coalition, comprised of the countries described above. He will make extensive preparations to strike. When the time is right, Ezekiel says Russia will then deploy this coalition against Israel in a show of overwhelming force, coming against the Jewish State "like a storm."
The Bible makes it clear that when this "War of Gog and Magog" begins, no country will come to Israel's defense. Not the United Nations. Not the European Union. Not even the United States. Israel will feel utterly alone, and her enemies will be convinced that they are on the verge of an historic victory in which the Jews will be wiped off the map once and for all. But Ezekiel then says some supernatural will occur. The God of Israel - the God of the Bible - will bring judgment upon the enemies of Israel, beginning with Gog, the dictator of Russia. The Lord will trigger a massive earthquake in which "all the men who are on the face of the earth will shake at My presence." Gog's forces will turn against one another, and then they will be subject to pestilence, torrential rains, hailstones, and even fire from heaven. Israel will then capture her enemies weapons and burn them for seven years and it will take seven full months to bury all the bodies of Israel's slain enemies, so great will be the devastation.
WHEN?
When will all this happen? We don't know for certain. But Ezekiel gives us several important clues. First, Israel will be a country again and Jews will be regathered to the Holy Land. Second, Israelis will be "living securely" before the "War of Gog and Magog," though the Scriptures do not go so far as to say that they will have comprehensive peace treaties with their neighbors. Third, Israel will have a measure of economic prosperity, according to the text. And fourth, Ezekiel 38:16 says explicitly that all these events "will come about in the last days" (that is, before the Battle of Armageddon).
In closing, let me be clear. Yes, Israel has been reborn as a country for the first time in 2,000 years. Yes, a dictator is rising to power in Russia that seems "Gog-esque." Yes, Russia and Iran are building an alliance today for the first time in 2,500 years. Yes, Russia and Libya are now building a new alliance. Yes, Iran is threatening to wipe Israel "off the map." Is all this conclusive proof that the "War of Gog and Magog" will happen soon, much less in our lifetime? No, I don't think we can make that assessment. Not yet, at least. Much more will have to happen to be sure. But can we rule out the possibility that this prophetic war could happen in the not-too-distant future? No, I don't think we can.
As for me, I don't want it to happen at all. But no man can stop what Bible prophecy says will come to pass. The most we can do is to be ready when it happens, and find ways to care for those in the Middle East and Russia who will be victims of this terrible war.
Joel C. Rosenberg is the New York Times best-selling author of political thrillers like Dead Heat, his latest novel. He is also the founder of www%2Ejoshuafund%2Enet&tempid=dcf... target="_blank">The Joshua Fund, which provides humanitarian relief to Israel and her neighbors. For more information on this topic, you may wish to read Joel's non-fiction book, www%2Eamazon%2Ecom%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F1... target="_blank">Epicenter: Why Current Rumblings in the Middle East Will Change Your Future.
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But no man can stop what Bible prophecy says will come to pass.

we're doooooomed!
Yeah well 1000 years BP the scholars of the carolinian court made the same noises on the same basis. Vikings and Huns and Moors and then there was the coming Y1K.
Then there was the spat of storms, crop failures and pestilence which accompanied the onset of the LIA. Then to the inhabitants of Europe the 30 years war seemed end times as armies laid cities to seige and then slaughtered men women and children. Then witch-hunting became fashionable.......
we must, cause Benoit is starting to speek in tongues.....
I always liked this poem.
The clock of life is wound but once,
And no man has the power
To tell just when the hands will stop
At late or early hour.
To lose one's wealth is sad indeed,
To lose one's health is more,
To lose one's soul is such a loss
That no man can restore.
The present only is our own,
So Live, Love, toil with a will --
Place no faith in 'Tomorrow' --
For the clock may then be still.
Robert H. Smith
©1932-1982
I personally hate religion for so many reasons, this is one part of it. The doomsday theory. How many times have religous fanatics declared a year a religous prophecy and stated that the world was going to end to only have the wind blow into there faces?
I think religion would have been a good asset if people diddn't corrupt it, and bend it to there will across time and if people would allow people to make there own choices about religion, instead of hate bashing because they aren't Christian or Islam, or Jewish, etc and killing people in the name of there gods.
Only thing religion has ever done right from my understanding is not killing off Budhism which in my opinion is the only decent religion left (Atleast unti'll the Chinese kill all the monks and banish people from believing in Budhism).
All they do is take and take, while giving nothing back to those who need it. The pope sits on a gold mine of money. He probally wipes his ass with thousand dollar bills while at the same time thousands of Christians need money to survive. Expecially in Africa where many Africans have adopted the Christian faith. They starve, and die. While the pope could fix all that with a simple donation of some of his gold mine.
Next religious fanatic that preaches the end of the world, I am going to hit him. Let 'god' block or deflect the punch or in his case. Beam him up like they do in star trek to heaven to 'save him' from the evil non-believers.
some religions do.. the Catholic faith believes in a world without end..
Ripcat @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:56 am
The old lady, that came to my door on the weekend, thinks so....
Red_Eye @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:02 am
make a prediction , eventually it will happen.
xerxes @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:21 am
Yeah, because guests on Glenn Beck's shows are so intelligent and are able to think rationally...
"You know, I get it when people are just looking for ways to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They want to live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else pours dirt in their holes. Climb out of your holes, people!"
- Greg House

xerxes @ Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:05 am
"I don't really think that the end can be assessed as of itself, as being the end, because what does the end feel like? It's like trying to extrapolate the end of the universe. If the universe is indeed infinite, then what does that mean? How far is all the way and then if it stops what's stopping it and what's behind what's stopping it? So "What is the end?" is my question to you."
-David St. Hubbins,
Red_Eye Red_Eye:
we must, cause Benoit is starting to speek in tongues.....
Red_Eye Red_Eye:
make a prediction , eventually it will happen.
DerbyX is going to register Conservative and pine away for the glory days of Brian Mulroney as PM.
Be sure to send me a memo when this happens!!
Technically, Yes. However, the End may not come for millions of years so I don't worry about it. I'm far more concerned that the end of our Civilization may come sooner than we think, but even that likely won't happen until after I'm dead.