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Thanos @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:48 am

He was obligated to step down if he said his administration depended on the remain vote winning. The fighting inside the Conservatives has been pretty bad so being a lightning rod for discontent meant he would have prolonged the in-fighting if he stayed on. They'll probably have to have a compromise selection to succeed him because Boris is also too divisive to be considered for PM. Leave didn't win by enough to justify one of their zealots inside the Tory party to take over. Their spot of good luck is that they won the last election not that long ago so they're not obligated to call another one anytime soon, which gives them time to get their act together for the next one. Hopefully they've learned enough about immigration and gutting the military that their next platform will resemble something rational on those two issues.

The good news is that Labour is probably even more fuxxated right now than the Tories. The working class voted big for leaving because they're angry about businesses leaving Britain, losing their jobs, and then having the fuckers import back into Britain tariff-free after they've set up shop in Poland or Romania. The Labour brains though don't care anymore. They're too busy concentrating on the white upper-class left-wing dilettantes, enviro-freaks, invader communities, and free-borders immigration idiots to spare any concern anymore for the British working class. If that moves the former Labour votes towards UKIP over time then it's a good thing.

They existed as a centralized sovereign entity for a thousand years, through good times and bad alike, but all of a sudden Britain can't make it on their own after twenty years in the EU? Yeah, right. :lol:

   



martin14 @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:10 am

Thanos Thanos:


The good news is that Labour is probably even more fuxxated right now than the Tories. The working class voted big for leaving because they're angry


There may be a coup attempt on Corbyn as well.
I imagine he isn't unhappy about the result of the referendum. :)


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about businesses leaving Britain, losing their jobs, and then having the fuckers import back into Britain tariff-free after they've set up shop in Poland or Romania. The Labour brains though don't care anymore. They're too busy concentrating on the white upper-class left-wing dilettantes, enviro-freaks, invader communities, and free-borders immigration idiots to spare any concern anymore for the British working class. If that moves the former Labour votes towards UKIP over time then it's a good thing.


The people who keep whining 'Trump is finished' might want to sit up and take notice, because it's coming to the US.


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They existed as a centralized sovereign entity for a thousand years, through good times and bad alike, but all of a sudden Britain can't make it on their own after twenty years in the EU? Yeah, right. :lol:


The real 'little Englanders' were always in the Remain campaign.

   



martin14 @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:59 am

Every region in the UK voted to Leave, except for Northern Ireland, Scotland, and London.




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martin14 @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:45 am

From the Guardian:


Jo Cox's neighbors vote Leave.


$1:
In the village of Birstall a handful of people were paying their respects at the memorial to Jo Cox in the village square, just around the corner from where she was killed a week ago.

The area of Kirklees, which includes Cox’s constituency of Batley and Spen, voted to leave by 55.7% on a 71% turnout, slightly lower than surrounding areas Wakefield (66.4%) and Barnsley (68.3%).

Michelle Victor, 33, who works in HR for the NHS, said she knew people who changed the way they voted because of the MP’s murder, feeling they would be associating themselves with her attacker if they voted to leave. “People would have thought long and hard when making their decision, but we are where we are,” she said.

“[Jo Cox] would be incredibly disappointed, but she would have been out there for the community, working as she always did to bring us all together, because – even though this is a traditional Pennine area – there are diverse communities and different views.”

   



Lemmy @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:52 am

Odd that conservatives would cheer this result. You're supposed to be freetraders.

Or could it be that your desire to see the whole fucking thing burn outweighs any guiding philosophy?

   



Sunnyways @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:05 am

Thanos Thanos:

They existed as a centralized sovereign entity for a thousand years, through good times and bad alike, but all of a sudden Britain can't make it on their own after twenty years in the EU? Yeah, right. :lol:


4 centuries of one monarch, three of one state. Still a long time but there is a clear division between Scotland/NI and E/W now over the EU. London will be a problem as well.

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:18 am

Lemmy Lemmy:
Odd that conservatives would cheer this result. You're supposed to be freetraders.

Or could it be that your desire to see the whole fucking thing burn outweighs any guiding philosophy?


PDT_Armataz_01_37

I'm thinking that the UK gets a lot of added security from the EU's rules on trade. Things like rules that a product had to have certain properties to be called a certain thing, like 'Champagne' had to come from a certain grape in a certain region of France, or Stilton Cheese could only come from a certain area of England (but not in the town of Stilton :? ).

When they exit, do those protections disappear?

Do German cars that the Brits seem to love (or Indian, like Aston Martin) rise in price because of the added tariffs? Yes, the rules on refugees suck, but that's a social problem. Are the economics worth it?

   



Lemmy @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:22 am

This vote, along with the rise of Donald Trump, terrorism, mass-shootings are symptoms of the same problem. People are pissed that 1% of the population are getting all the rewards of globalization and the modern economy. It's that simple.

   



BRAH @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:42 am

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Anyone celebrating this moment is celebrating xenophobia destroying a nation. It’s a heartbreaking day.

Canadian Establishment Leftist Fear mongering, meanwhile the next POTUS has released a statement.

   



DrCaleb @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:02 am

Holy shit! Trump was discussing foreign policy! Like a rational human being!?!

{Checks to see if it's International Backwards Day, or April Fools Day}

   



martin14 @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:30 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Do German cars that the Brits seem to love (or Indian, like Aston Martin) rise in price because of the added tariffs? Yes, the rules on refugees suck, but that's a social problem. Are the economics worth it?



The head of the German Association of Industry came out before the referendum
to say the tariff talk was all bullshit.

The UK has an opt out on all things around the illegals crisis.

Money isn't everything.

   



BRAH @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:32 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Holy shit! Trump was discussing foreign policy! Like a rational human being!?!

{Checks to see if it's International Backwards Day, or April Fools Day}

:lol:
Cameron's replacement. 8O

   



Thanos @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:47 am

Lemmy Lemmy:
Odd that conservatives would cheer this result. You're supposed to be freetraders.

Or could it be that your desire to see the whole fucking thing burn outweighs any guiding philosophy?


1) most of us were wrong on free trade and have admitted it

2) pretty sure that whatever got burnt down happened at the hands of Angela Merkel first when she let all those rapefugees into Germany, and then used the EU to strongarm the rest of the countries into doing the same thing

Eliminate the sheer suicidal idiocy of allowing (even encouraging) mass Muslim immigration into Britain, as well as gutting the British armed forces in order to be seen as Austerity Hero, then Leave loses and David Cameron keeps his job. This is fairly simple to most of us, that politicians in charge don't pull this crap when it's opposed by a huge majority and favoured only by a small group of dilettantes who never have to live next door to the reality of their insane decisions. It's only a puzzle to the smart-n-pretty people in the upper stratosphere who just can't seem to wrap their minds around why everyone else genuinely believes that almost everything is turning into shit right in front of all of us.

The old conservative/liberal paradigm is dead anyway so you might want to start factoring that reality into your equations. It got booted off the stage by Survival vs Suicide.

   



Sunnyways @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:49 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Lemmy Lemmy:
Odd that conservatives would cheer this result. You're supposed to be freetraders.

Or could it be that your desire to see the whole fucking thing burn outweighs any guiding philosophy?


PDT_Armataz_01_37

I'm thinking that the UK gets a lot of added security from the EU's rules on trade. Things like rules that a product had to have certain properties to be called a certain thing, like 'Champagne' had to come from a certain grape in a certain region of France, or Stilton Cheese could only come from a certain area of England (but not in the town of Stilton :? ).



Champagne won't change.

   



Thanos @ Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:49 am

Sunnyways Sunnyways:
Thanos Thanos:

They existed as a centralized sovereign entity for a thousand years, through good times and bad alike, but all of a sudden Britain can't make it on their own after twenty years in the EU? Yeah, right. :lol:


4 centuries of one monarch, three of one state. Still a long time but there is a clear division between Scotland/NI and E/W now over the EU. London will be a problem as well.


Still a thousand years though of struggling to remain free of domination by the continent, even if it took the first six hundred years of the second millenium to establish the supremacy of the English throne.

   



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