Death of a Nation
OPP @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:05 am
stratos stratos:
OPP OPP:
stratos stratos:
Well OPP I suppose you will be the first to join your nations Military and go and free the people of East Timor. You know they are being oppressed by a minority group with in their country (in this case the Indonesians). Put up or shut up.
But wait you cant do that can you because OMG Iraq was being ruled by a minority group prior to the US invasion, this minority ruling class committed acts of torture, genocide and other horrors. What did your oh so great country of Sweeden do... thats right they bought oil from that country and its minority ruling elite and then cried when they were cast down.
Wow what a hypocrite you've show your self to be.
But wait you cant do that can you because OMG Iraq was being ruled by a minority group prior to the US invasion, this minority ruling class committed acts of torture, genocide and other horrors. What did your oh so great country of Sweeden do... thats right they bought oil from that country and its minority ruling elite and then cried when they were cast down.
Wow what a hypocrite you've show your self to be.
Well.. Indonesian millitary is no longer occupying East Timor... so, I guess me joining our millitary in that purpose would be kinda pointless, from that perspective atleast.
and... How am I a hypocrite?
You whine and cry about how some groups are oppressed and tortured ect.. yet when its taken care of in other regions you blame the ones who went in. I'm positive if the US had gone into East Timor you would have yelled about the US involvement. How much did Sweeden do to end this you clearly state that the outside world did not get involved that means Sweeden did not also. What have you said or done to change your countries complicity in all of this?
Thus your attempt to call out other nations and not your own is HYPOCRITICAL
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Taken care off? The two are not comparable! Iraq was a soveriegn country! The invaders in that case is America! East Timor was invaded by Indonesia. Indonesia is an ally to the U.S.
Sweden have been sending aid to East Timor since 1997. Humanitarian aid, building schools and working for stability in the country.
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Sveriges förbindelser med Östtimor
Sveriges omfattande relationer till Östtimor har delvis sitt ursprung i att Indonesiens ockupation av den forna portugisiska kolonin från 1975 aldrig erkändes av Sverige. Det har i Sverige funnits ett stort engagemang bland politiker och intresseorganisationer som verkat för Östtimors frihet och utveckling. Efter att Indonesien förklarat att Östtimors framtid skulle bestämmas med hjälp av en folkomröstning 1999 blev Sverige snabbt involverat och bidrog med både civilpoliser och valobservatörer. Sedan 1998 har Sverige bidragit med drygt 182 miljoner kronor till Östtimor, främst genom FN.
Sveriges omfattande relationer till Östtimor har delvis sitt ursprung i att Indonesiens ockupation av den forna portugisiska kolonin från 1975 aldrig erkändes av Sverige. Det har i Sverige funnits ett stort engagemang bland politiker och intresseorganisationer som verkat för Östtimors frihet och utveckling. Efter att Indonesien förklarat att Östtimors framtid skulle bestämmas med hjälp av en folkomröstning 1999 blev Sverige snabbt involverat och bidrog med både civilpoliser och valobservatörer. Sedan 1998 har Sverige bidragit med drygt 182 miljoner kronor till Östtimor, främst genom FN.
Regeringskansliet
Swedens relationship with East Timor
Sweden NEVER recognized the legitimacy of the Indonesian occupation (which the U.S did). There have been a huge commitment made by swedish politicians and interest groups who have been working for the liberation of East Timor since the occupation in 1975. When the Indonesian government proclaimed that the future of East Timor would be desided by a refferendum in 1999, Sweden got involved immediately and provided with both civilian police and observers. Since 1998 Sweden have contributed with 182 miljon SEK to the developement of East Timor.
Me, my self, am doing something for East Timor right at this moment by informing people of the injust conditions in the country. I am politicaly active with a party who is strongly opposed to these conditions. How am I a hypocrite again?
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:50 pm
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
OPP @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:54 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:06 pm
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
USCAdad @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:09 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
In my book she's way above hot-ish. The other thing I can say in defense of Swedes... damn fine Hockey players.
OPP @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:11 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
Subjects that I know nothing about... hmmm... I think it's quite obvius that it is you who know little if anything about this.
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:15 pm
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
Subjects that I know nothing about... hmmm... I think it's quite obvius that it is you who know little if anything about this.
No I keep tabs on world affairs, I have many Aussie chums and I can spell.
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:19 pm
USCAdad USCAdad:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
In my book she's way above hot-ish. The other thing I can say in defense of Swedes... damn fine Hockey players.
Actually I've always been a fan of Saab aircraft, Draken, Viggen and the Gripen, great kites. And I have personally had to thank my existence to a twin bofors AAA.
OPP @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:23 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
Subjects that I know nothing about... hmmm... I think it's quite obvius that it is you who know little if anything about this.
No I keep tabs on world affairs, I have many Aussie chums and I can spell.
... what's wrong with you? Do your life suck that much that you need to act like a psycho over the internet? Stalk me and try to offend me with juvenile insults.
Your a grown man with chilldren and a wife(or so you claim), for Gods sake! Why do you insist on making an ass of yourself?
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:17 pm
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
Subjects that I know nothing about... hmmm... I think it's quite obvius that it is you who know little if anything about this.
No I keep tabs on world affairs, I have many Aussie chums and I can spell.
... what's wrong with you? Do your life suck that much that you need to act like a psycho over the internet? Stalk me and try to offend me with juvenile insults.
Your a grown man with chilldren and a wife(or so you claim), for Gods sake! Why do you insist on making an ass of yourself?
Oh dear me, teddy thrown out the crib.....
Do be realistic. Oh and try to comment on things you know about, you wouldn't look so half a plonker if you're arguments had resonance.
Just a suggestion. Your teddy is over there.
OPP @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:27 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
Subjects that I know nothing about... hmmm... I think it's quite obvius that it is you who know little if anything about this.
No I keep tabs on world affairs, I have many Aussie chums and I can spell.
... what's wrong with you? Do your life suck that much that you need to act like a psycho over the internet? Stalk me and try to offend me with juvenile insults.
Your a grown man with chilldren and a wife(or so you claim), for Gods sake! Why do you insist on making an ass of yourself?
Oh dear me, teddy thrown out the crib.....
Do be realistic. Oh and try to comment on things you know about, you wouldn't look so half a plonker if you're arguments had resonance.
Just a suggestion. Your teddy is over there.
... Poor woman.. being married to such an ass..
EyeBrock @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:32 pm
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
OPP OPP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
What did Sweden do about the oppressive Indonesians?
SIDA (Sweden's foreign aid ministry) punished them by sending more money. That'll show them!
You don't even recognise the direct involvment of the American Government... and then you attempt to prove Swedens guilt in all of this.
I think you need some perspective Bart. I really do.
You nice tame Vikings can stay in jolly old Norse-ville and leave the Anglo-Saxons to send troops to help the opressed.
You are so proud of the Swedish armoured cavalry yet when have they fired a shot in anger?
You are like the guys on the "Life of Brian"
"Besides, peace, stability, the rule of law, no gangs of thugs roaming the streets, mega investment, vegimite and Castlemaine four x, what have the Australians done for East Timor?"
Peace? Australia brought peace to East Timor? No gangs or thugs? Where/what are the investments?
Vegimite and Castlemain???
You have a lot of explaining to do.
From the glass house you live, there really is no point. What is it with you? Were you gang raped by a load of Aussie sailors?
You really do post on inane subjects that you obviously know nothing about. The only good thing about you is the chick on your avatar is hot-ish. It ends there.
Subjects that I know nothing about... hmmm... I think it's quite obvius that it is you who know little if anything about this.
No I keep tabs on world affairs, I have many Aussie chums and I can spell.
... what's wrong with you? Do your life suck that much that you need to act like a psycho over the internet? Stalk me and try to offend me with juvenile insults.
Your a grown man with chilldren and a wife(or so you claim), for Gods sake! Why do you insist on making an ass of yourself?
Oh dear me, teddy thrown out the crib.....
Do be realistic. Oh and try to comment on things you know about, you wouldn't look so half a plonker if you're arguments had resonance.
Just a suggestion. Your teddy is over there.
... Poor woman.. being married to such an ass..So there...nan nan na na...such insight....
Tman1 @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:38 pm
A little late and my first time using this emoticon but here goes.
![[popcorn]](./images/smilies/popcorn.gif "Eating Popcorn")
OPP @ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:56 pm
Tman1 Tman1:
A little late and my first time using this emoticon but here goes.
This has gone far enough... I'm gonna keep this on topic.
He can try to get this one locked down but I won't help him.
.. and if you're out there Regina, DON'T lock this down.. it's just EyeBrock being an ass and trying to sabotage the topic.
stratos @ Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:16 pm
OPP Whats SEK? (sweedish money?) "....Sweden have contributed with 182 miljon SEK to...."
Eyebrock use name calling and put downs that are semi with in the topic if you can. As for OPP's spelling who realy gives a dam I cant spell either. At least OPP and I (btw neither of us like each other) don't ridicule each other over spelling errors that, if one takes a half a second to think, can be figured out.
Yes please dont close down this thread yet. OPP's putting up a decent amount of good INFO for us to digest and at least yell at each other about and poke fun at 