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European agricultural policy protests

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kilroy @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:03 am

This is going to be a big issue from now on, all of the concerns with agriculture and agribusiness, balanced against the need for food. A protest with varied interest groups also gives those groups the opportunity to discuss the issues outside of their own single interests, and to hear compimentary and sometimes opposing viewpoints. That can only be for the good.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013 ... otest.html

"Thousands of people braved the cold and demonstrated in the streets of Berlin as politicians and policymakers met to discuss changes to global agricultural policies.

Under the slogan, “We are fed up,” the protesters called for an end to food scandals, genetic engineering and animal cruelty in industrial livestock farming."

"More than 120 groups representing farmers, industry, and animal rights and environmental activists organized the demonstration. It was timed to coincide with International Green Week, the Agriculture Ministers' Summit and the Global Forum for Agriculture, which are all taking place in Berlin this week."

"Organizers said 22,000 people came from all over Germany, although police estimated turnout closer to 15,000.

Following about 50 tractors, they marched from Berlin’s main train station, along one of the main shopping streets, through the government district, and ended with a rally in front of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s offices."

   



martin14 @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:46 am

Gawd, you're a real idiot.

There are protests in European cities every week, for one thing or another.


And 15,000 people is nothing, must be a slow Sunday
night in Canada. :lol: :lol:



Stick to being a parrot for the FNs, you'll do a better job with that.

   



Brenda @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:50 am

Also, Europe ain't just Berlin. Oh well.

This is just as "big" as those 4 Muslims protesting on the Dam a while ago :lol:

   



kilroy @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:04 am

martin14 martin14:
Gawd, you're a real idiot.

There are protests in European cities every week, for one thing or another.

And 15,000 people is nothing, must be a slow Sunday
night in Canada. :lol: :lol:

Stick to being a parrot for the FNs, you'll do a better job with that.


If you are only interested in making personal attacks rather than discussing issues raised, you should think about the issues a little bit. From the same story,

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013 ... otest.html

“The politicians don’t respect enough the environmental issues,” said Moritz Steinbeck, of Young Friends of the Earth.

Factory farms disregard animal welfare, and the overuse of chemical fertilizers and pesticides is harming the environment and threatening biodiversity, he said.

“We want to send a message to the German politicians, but also to the European Union because the CAP reform is now being discussed. I hope [they will listen] and I think they do because if you look at the anti-nuclear movement, it was quite powerful in Germany and had an effect on the politicians and the politics that were made.”

But your point is well made, there are more large scale and successful protests in europe than here. We can learn from this.

   



DanSC @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:30 am

Brenda Brenda:
Also, Europe ain't just Berlin. Oh well.

Don't tell that to Greece.

   



kilroy @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:56 am

Brenda Brenda:
Also, Europe ain't just Berlin. Oh well.

This is just as "big" as those 4 Muslims protesting on the Dam a while ago :lol:


I wasn't referring to the protest, or future protests, as being "big". What I am saying is that the issues being addressed by the protesters, and the governmental organizations meeting during the protest, will be big concerns for us. There are health issues, financial issues, and environmental issues, associated with the way farming has developed over the last fifty years. So the decisions made by government will have impacts on us.

The protesters are putting forward their concerns, sometimes from groups that have some differing goals and needs. More of that kind of co-operation would be a good thing.

Which four muslims protesting on what dam?

   



Brenda @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:04 am

kilroy kilroy:
Brenda Brenda:
Also, Europe ain't just Berlin. Oh well.

This is just as "big" as those 4 Muslims protesting on the Dam a while ago :lol:


I wasn't referring to the protest, or future protests, as being "big". What I am saying is that the issues being addressed by the protesters, and the governmental organizations meeting during the protest, will be big concerns for us. There are health issues, financial issues, and environmental issues, associated with the way farming has developed over the last fifty years. So the decisions made by government will have impacts on us.

The protesters are putting forward their concerns, sometimes from groups that have some differing goals and needs. More of that kind of co-operation would be a good thing.

Which four muslims protesting on what dam?

THE DAM, in Amsterdam. Never heard of that? it is "Europe", ya know...

   



Brenda @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:07 am

DanSC DanSC:
Brenda Brenda:
Also, Europe ain't just Berlin. Oh well.

Don't tell that to Greece.

Greece has been a drama for years and years. Decades, I might say. Becoming a "Euro-nation" was the stupidest thing they could have done. The European Union is paying. ALL of them. Not just Germany.

It's funny that Germany is so strict with Greece, btw. They messed up themselves also.

   



kilroy @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:15 am

Brenda Brenda:
kilroy kilroy:
Brenda Brenda:
Also, Europe ain't just Berlin. Oh well.

This is just as "big" as those 4 Muslims protesting on the Dam a while ago :lol:


I wasn't referring to the protest, or future protests, as being "big". What I am saying is that the issues being addressed by the protesters, and the governmental organizations meeting during the protest, will be big concerns for us. There are health issues, financial issues, and environmental issues, associated with the way farming has developed over the last fifty years. So the decisions made by government will have impacts on us.

The protesters are putting forward their concerns, sometimes from groups that have some differing goals and needs. More of that kind of co-operation would be a good thing.

Which four muslims protesting on what dam?

THE DAM, in Amsterdam. Never heard of that? it is "Europe", ya know...


Ahhh, Amsterdam is Europe.... Sorry :)

   



Brenda @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:22 am

Just as much as Berlin is Europe. I guess you missed that sarcasm.

   



kilroy @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:01 pm

Brenda Brenda:
Just as much as Berlin is Europe. I guess you missed that sarcasm.


Maybe, but maybe more I missed the point of the sarcasm. Maybe more I missed some discussion of the issues, particularly from someone from Europe, and maybe particularly with respect to a country that went through so much deprivation because of food shortages which in good measure led to the agricultural policies being discussed.

   



Brenda @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:41 pm

As much as you might want to keep living in the past, The Netherlands, and Europe, has moved on.

*edited: Ugh, ESL-issues, and it is Monday.

   



kilroy @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:32 pm

Brenda Brenda:
As long as you might want to keep living in the past, The Netherlands, and Europe, has moved on.


I don't think, in this particular area that Europe has moved on, I do hope, that they haven't, though. Without the remembrance of what hard times are the concern for food security can be lost. The agricultural policies that reflect appreciation of farmers and their production are missing in Canada, I think because of our abundance.

It is important to have that recognition and assistance to farmers because with global warming, peak oil, high input costs, depleted water resources, etc. it is obvious that our food supply in the near future is compromised to say the least.

   



Xort @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Their are issues with the agro industry in europe but they are not enviromental ones.

   



martin14 @ Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:35 pm

kilroy kilroy:
It is important to have that recognition and assistance to farmers because with global warming, peak oil, high input costs, depleted water resources, etc. it is obvious that our food supply in the near future is compromised to say the least.



There's the Chicken Little I've been waiting for.

   



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