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GreatBriton @ Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:03 pm

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There are 174,000 Britons who live permanently in France - but 300,000 French people who have moved to the United Kingdom.


Find a job and a future in Britain, French told
By Colin Randall in Paris
(Filed: 06/04/2006)

As protesters throughout France continue their revolt against job law reform, the French author of a new guide to working in Britain says his country is in dire need of "our own Maggie Thatcher".

Vladimir Cordier, 30, an economics graduate, abandoned his native Normandy eight years ago for London after refusing to settle for what he saw as a hopeless future in France.

After finding work in a call centre, he changed jobs several times and now earns between £40,000 and £50,000 a year as a project manager with a firm providing technological services to lawyers.

His self-published book, Enfin un Boulot! (At last a job), advises young compatriots how to join the flood of French who have turned their backs on a stifling employment market at home in favour of "le modèle Anglo-Saxon".

"No French government wants to be honest with the people," Mr Cordier said. "But times are hard and what we need is something like our own Maggie Thatcher, if maybe not so tough.

"We cannot go on believing we can afford the social system we have, keeping people in universities until they leave with skills that are useless to the world outside."

Mr Cordier, from Rouen, decided to leave France after hearing a professor tell students to continue studying as long as possible because "there is no work for you".

"I was gobsmacked," he said. "After all that studying, he thought the best I could hope for was to end up as a cashier at the hypermarket, doing a job for which you needed no more than the GCSE equivalent."

His advice to French people following his example is to save enough to cover basic needs while looking for work and to avoid menial jobs in sandwich bars and pubs.

"It is better than nothing but a call centre job looks a lot better on the CV," he said. "I am living proof that it can be done because I arrived with very little and have done well.

"But I would not be considered qualified in France to do what I do in London. The best I could have hoped for would have been a little bank job earning half as much."

He said he was fed up with hearing the French moan about British "invaders" forcing up house prices. He said: "There are 174,000 Britons who live permanently in France - but 300,000 French people who have moved to the United Kingdom."

Mr Cordier's Parisian girlfriend, Anne-Sophie Cavil, 31, overcame initial reluctance to join him in London and works as a marketing manager in telecommunications.

"It can be difficult to make English friends because the way we think is so different," he said. "Health and public transport systems are not as good but we love our life here: the open-mindedness that allows everyone from the boss to the cleaner to have a drink together after work."

He said the law that has provoked weeks of unrest in France could have been useful in fighting unemployment but had been presented badly.

www.telegraph.co.uk . . .

   



GreatBriton @ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:37 am

Young exiles embrace the Anglo model

15,000 French people arrive in Britain per YEAR, tempted by UK job market

Ashley Seager and Angela Balakrishnan
Saturday April 8, 2006
The Guardian

While the French continue to stage mass protests against changes to their employment laws, hundreds of thousands of their compatriots have voted with their feet and come to work in Britain.

Figures now suggest that - contrary to popular perception - there may be more French people living in Britain than there are Brits in France. Since 1999, about 15,000 French people have moved to Britain each year while 10,000 British have gone the other way, according to figures from the UK's Office for National Statistics.

About two-thirds of the French moving to Britain are under 36, and three-quarters are single. They are often qualified mathematicians or engineers. Many head for well-paid work in London. "Salaries are higher than in France and can grow quickly," said Samuel Remy, a French man working for the travel group Travco. "Pay rises every year and bonuses depending on your performance are generally the case. This has to be set against the cost of living of London - above all housing and transport."

France's youth unemployment rate is around 23%, rising to 50% in young immigrant communities - a crucial factor behind last year's riots in many areas. France's overall unemployment rate tops 9%, compared with 5% in the UK.

Besides this, the British economy has been reasonably successful at creating new jobs - 2.4 million of them since 1997 - and jobs in the UK tend to be better paid. Wages have been rising strongly in Britain for the past decade, but have stagnated in France.

Dynamic

The French consulate in London thinks there may be 300,000 to 400,000 French living in Britain today. The Foreign Office estimates that 300,000 British are living permanently in France, excluding second-home owners.

But while Brits in France are widely dispersed across the country, about 70% of French in the UK are in Greater London, according to the French consulate. Of those, about half work in financial services in the City.

Céline Abadie, 28, came to London two months ago and within weeks was offered three jobs, of which she chose one at a PR firm, NewsMarket. "Right now in France the market is damp for jobs. I have friends who have been looking for work for six months," she said. "I love London - it's so dynamic and cosmopolitan. Because of my job, I don't plan to leave here for at least five years. Friends told me that Paris is too narrow for me. The quality of life here is good. You can do a lot and enjoy a nice life."

Arnaud Chevalier, an academic at the London School of Economics, agreed. "I can only speak for academics," he said. "But we think the standard of work is higher in the UK: conditions are better; pay is better. These are the main reasons for people coming here. French universities are grotty."

The typical experience of French people in Britain is that they can find work quickly and in jobs not necessarily related to the subjects they studied, as is common among young Britons. In France, by contrast, graduates expect to find work in the field they studied.

"What I really like about the UK job market is it's more open in that they do not look so much at your schooling but value your past experience. It's also closer to the job market in the US for students trying to find work globally," said François Desmonts, head of the French Club at the London Business School.

Insecurity

Pascale Dauptain, 30, a business development director at FBC Media, said she loved living in London and now considered it home.

"It's dynamic and extremely international. I think people come here to make their way and find jobs. If the job's not right you can move very quickly. It's not even comparable to Paris. I recommend moving here all the time to my friends."

Back in France, the prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, is trying to introduce a "first job contract" law, under which employers can dismiss young workers.

Many French are up in arms about it. They focus on the job insecurity, rather than the chance of getting employment that might otherwise not be there.

French people, especially those in secure jobs, love to praise the French "social model" and deride what they see as Britain's "Anglo-Saxon model", with its "hire and fire" labour market.

But for the French working in Britain, the new law is an irrelevance. "To be honest, the recent events in France about this new work contract that many French people are rejecting do not encourage me to return to France to work," says Mr Remy at Travco.


guardian.co.uk

   



PRH977 @ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:15 pm

Much as I like France (and I am very much a Francophile) , I'm tempted to agree : it's easier to get a job here in the UK although having said that, it's really easier for employers to hire and fire which is what makes it the way it is

Getting a job still depends, naturally, on how good your CV is. Speaking as a rather frustrated job hunter (I am in employment, but not the kind I want), it's all about ticking boxes and saying the right things these days. Work experience counts for f**k all to be perfectly honest (just to show how I feel about it...)

   



PRH977 @ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:21 pm

should really have said 'on how good your job hunting technique is'

   



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