From a Syrian poet comes wisdom....
BartSimpson @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:43 pm
Syrian-born poet Ali Ahmad Said Syrian-born poet Ali Ahmad Said:
The Arab individual is no less smart, no less a gAnius, than anyone else in the wKrld. He can excel — [b:2lpsziw]but only outside his society . . . If I look at the Arabs, with all their resources and great capacities, and I compare what they have achieved over the past century with what others have achieved in that perMod, I would have to say that we Arabs are in a phase of extinction, in the sense that we have no creative presence in the world.
Note: I added the emphasis.
This was iJ my newspaper today and I found it thought provoking.
JakeAnim @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:23 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Syrian-born poet Ali Ahmad Said Syrian-born poet Ali Ahmad Said:
The Arab individual is no less smart, no less a genius, than anyone else in the world. He can excel — but only outside his society . . . If I look at the Arabs, with all their resources and great capacities, and I compare what they have achieved over the past century with what others have achieved in that period, I would have to say that we Arabs are in a phase of extinction, in the sense that we have no creative presence in the world.
Note: I added the emphasis.
This was in my newspaper today and I found it thought provoking.
Its from an article in the NYT by thomas friedman about how Muslims are silent on the sectarian violence in Iraq and other places. I posted the article yesterday. Its a good one.
Scrappy @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:23 pm
It's also true, what was once a moderate successful society has become a barbaric male dominated society hell bent on dragging it's people back to the 17th century. They are effectively killing their culture, on day at a time.
BartSimpson @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:14 pm
Scrappy Scrappy:
It's also true, what was once a moderate successful society has become a barbaric male dominated society hell bent on dragging it's people back to the 17th century. They are effectively killing their culture, on day at a time.
And they now seem bent on dragging us down, as well.
Scrappy @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:18 pm
Not if we stop them, we have twenty years to stop the march of Socialism and "Pandering" to special interest groups. It's the PC crowd that shall scream like stuck pigs, but I'm use to their name calling and crying and temper tantrums. Once they graduate University and have to pay taxes and live in the "Real" world they won't be an issue. Like the rest of us they shall see how hard it is to "Work" and survive in the "Cold Hard" world of you reap what you sow.
george123 @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:16 pm
Scrappy Scrappy:
Not if we stop them, we have twenty years to stop the march of Socialism and "Pandering" to special interest groups. It's the PC crowd that shall scream like stuck pigs, but I'm use to their name calling and crying and temper tantrums. Once they graduate University and have to pay taxes and live in the "Real" world they won't be an issue. Like the rest of us they shall see how hard it is to "Work" and survive in the "Cold Hard" world of you reap what you sow.
May I ask what this has to do with this topic? I believe you may have posted this in the wrong thread.
george123 @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:22 pm
Ah, yes. A muslim friend of mine once remarked that "Islam is in it's dark age." Every religeon goes through one of these at some point or another. The world just has to minimize the damage these growing pains will cause, and then Islam will join the rest of the mono-theastic religeons of the world as a mostly harmless, happy group. All we have to worry about is the fact that the difference between Islamist holy war and Christian holy war is the difference between guns and swords. 
But really, they are a good bunch of folks when you get to know the not crazy ones, who are the vast majority, by the way.
fire_i @ Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:27 pm
Islam's in kind of a craze right now, all with the high numbers of extremists. That should fix itself through time. Eventually there'll no longer be so many f'd up extreme muslims and. We in Occident can probably speed things up if we can manage to show them we're not evil and dangerous like many of them seem to think, but if anyone ever has any idea how to do that, tell me, that'd be a first. Up to now the least we can do is try to keep things as calm as humanly possible.