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http://www.canada.com/national/story.ht ... 3344454eef

The article didn't exactly say how many but my guy at the assignment news desk says that 2 Bricks(One Brick = 4 man unit) and a C.O. were sent today to Haiti to back up the 5 member CF team sent to evact the Canadian embassy.

Thanks to the boys and girls at 2RCR Gagetown and JOG for getting to alert status so quickly as well. Goodluck JTF2 and I hope the other 1000+ Canadians get out of there safely.


Wally..

   

on CTV news they were talking to Mike Audette of the DND and he said they had some Herc's on standby and civillian transportation wouldn't be used if it came to deploying/evacuating..

At least we wont be cheaping out on this if it happens I guess. I mean, sending a Sea King to the Gulf in a commercial ship? That hurts..

   

Hey with the ridiculous amount of military cut backs right now we'll be lucky if we even have functional Sea Kings at the end of he year. Now I'm not a war monger or junkie or anything but to strip our armed forces like this is a big shame especially with the pround heritage we have in peace keeping.

   

Its a downhill battle. We have an amazing millitary history but to see this sink this low is sad.

   

It truly is a downhill battle and a slippery slope to boot. So two bricks (thank you SAS) slip slide into darkest Haiti where they can now put into practice what the citizens of Dwyer Hill have been experiencing for years at the hands of these deadly youths. Terrorism - Canadian style.

Oops. Maybe they're there to learn new techniques - now there's a concept. Learning new and innovative technques of terror so they can get those feisty farmers to get off their own private land so our baby special forces can practice together, all as one, making houses of straw bricks.

Now if they really wanted to learn guerrilla warfare, there's some lovely real estate in and about the intersection of Jane and Finch.

   

Karra what is your problem?



FYI, JTF2 officers and soldiers were the ones that trained all of Haiti's police force after the U.S. and UN pulled out during the 90's, you know the same cops in Haiti that were shot to death by the rebel forces. Have some tact for god sakes.



What are you 12? This isn't a pissing contest. What did the Canadian military ever do to you to make you so angry. I'd really like to know, because if there is a legitamate reason maybe you can tell all of us, otherwise you just come off as an ignorant jackass.

   

Problem? Moi?

Shurly you jest. First let me state that I know a number of young men once assigned to that secret unit. Good looking lads too, but I digress.

You appear (deliberately?) uninformed of the goings on and what I call terror tactics utilised against one particular farmer whose land abuts this oh-so-secret facility. Never mind the fact this chap and his family have farmed this specific piece of land for nearly 150 years. Offers to purchase have consistently been well below market value and the threat of expropriation has to date been hollow. As to the tactics used by these erstwhile young men - you seem to have internet access, look it up. But I'm betting you already now, yeah?

   

You should separate your concerns regarding DND's dealings with the harrassed gentleman at Dwyer Hill with your comments regarding the individuals in JTF2 who are risking their lives to protect Canadian citizens in a very dangerous part of the world.

P.S., this chap and his family have owned the land in question for 20 years, not 150.

   

Check it out for all you haters...

JTF 2 Website

   

Ok a couple things.

1) Karra I apologize for calling you a 12 year old ignorant jackass, that was uncalled for and unprofessional.

2) On the whole issue of Ron Mayhew and his farm in Dywer Hill(I assume that's the farm you're talking about) I am now am a little more versed in (I only found one Ottawa news paper article on it). For those people out there that have gotten their B.A.'s and Masters degrees before the internet, we did our research the old fashion way - going to the library and reading. The internet is the very last place I goto to do research. A great portion of information displayed on the net is at best borderline reliable, but whatever moving on...

3) One of my questions is - Why do you have such contempt for JTF2(in specifics or in general I don't know) especially when you say you knew several of them in person? It kind of doesn't make sense. While Mr. Mayhew has been dealt a real shitty card in this whole situation there are a couple of things I'll try to assume to answer the question and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

a) You live in or near the Dywer Hill area and have seen JTF2 misconduct in person.

b) You know the Mr. Mayhew and clearly sympathize through vicarious association.

c) You yourself is a farmer or from a farming background and can relate to how damn hard it is to keep a farm running and making money without the hassle of military strong arm tactics.

d) Your ex-JTF2 friends have told you inside information as to what actually goes on at the Dywer Hill base.


4) For the whole land issue I can't even go into because real estate problems I don't know enough about in that area of Canada. So the whole fair market value offer I can't comment on at all.

5) What Othello said about distinguishing and separating the land pricing issue with DnD and the rights abuse to the farm and it's owners is valid. Unless you personally know the people that have screwed around with that farm personally I just don't see why you're so worked up over it. Now if you do personally know someone that's different.

Now you can't possibly have disdain for all JTF2 operators? or do you? Maybe not all of them are practicing their terrorist tactics on other peoples property, is it fair to generalize that way? I don't know I'm just to understand your point of view on the situation. I'm not looking to pick a fight I just want to know, that's all...

Oh one more thing. If you or somebody could point me to some paper, print, or magazine articles on this (because I'm sure there have been some published) that would be great, a Macleans article maybe?. I'm more of a microfiche reading guy than an html browser.

   

Thanks for the link, but it's not new. The site has been the same since the beginning of the year.

   

I think you had it right the first time with the Jackass assessment. Totally off topic reply to a good post.

My thoughts are with JTF2.

m

   

ckzero, you might be interested in checking out the book Canada's Secret Commandos: The unauthorized story of Joint Task Force Two

   

Thanks for the info, I actually bought the March 2002 second printing of the book well in March 2002 . It's fairly well written and the historical research done for the book was very well done. Just wished it had colour photos instead of B&W's. Another one I just finished reading that I think everyone should get if they're interested in the overall topic of the Canadian military is Canada's Army: Waging War and Keeping the Peace and this one Who Killed the Canadian Military? Both written by J.L. Granatstein and both very informative and eye opening. Check them out at the library or hit the Chapters / Indigo.

   

Hey ckzero,

Thanks for the faux apology.

Too many questions that can't be answered ck zero. If anyone thinks there isn't some innocuous employee likely in the bowels of 101, maybe even in the same office as the jackbooted military intelligence wankers peering into his monitor for days on end for any and all references to the boys who can't be identified, is sadly mistaken. Why, I wouldn't be surprised if all reference in all its forms is monitored by the Communication . . . . you know.

Paranoia? Not an 'effin chance.

   

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