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Well you can view it any way you want to – but the Jyllands-Posten has done Christian caricatures before – in the present climate they are not running anything due to self censorship! Flemming Juste (chief editor of Jyllands-Posten): They have won – self censorship is a fact!

Another thing/ the Jyllands-Posten is a right wing paper – but not a fare right like some like to put it – and as noted before - making use of your freedom of expression does not mean that you have to take a stand on all sides at the same time.

- you can’t expect an editor not to be bias – as I learned last week in “60 minutes” - who visited Denmark and interviewed: one of the laying imams, a bleeding socialist, a left wing news paper editor and an old grumpy foreign minister – on these “objective” interviews they made their conclusion – I and about 80% other Danes don’t agree with them but it’s their right to put down any editorial line that they want.

   

Its always fun to read hate-mail from christian people like that. I see it on Atheist sites and evolution sites and its always the same.

   

Well you can simply "refuse to see it ass such" if you like. But if you want anyone to respect your opinion you'll have to actually justify why you "don't see it as such."

You can't just say "no it isn't" and expect that to be taken seriously Derby.



Well, by all means, enlighten us with this "truth" Derby.



Oh. What a revelation! Islamic countries experience violence everyday.

Maybe if they could get their shit together and stop living in the 11th century, then their streets would be a little more peaceful.



By "peaceful" protests, I guess you mean the one at Queen's Park on Sunday, where protesters were waving placards proclaiming "There can be no peace till Sharia is the law from East to West"? Is that the same one where speakers got up to urge their followers to "Burn the Danish economy down, so that the Danes will drown in their own blood?"

With countries full of people who spout of rhetoric like that, is it any wonder their societies are so violent? Like I said, still living in the 11th century.

I'll be willing to listen to what Islam has to say in about a thousand years when they evolve a bit more. Until that time, as far as I'm concerned, they can go back to the sand dunes if they don't like the way we do things in the west.

   

The salient point was that they "choose" not to print something because it would offend people. They knew it was going to offend people and they knew that muslims consider it the gravest of insults.

Now your people, your gov't and your flag doesn't deserve the abuse it has been getting but the paper should have know a reaction was coming.

   

Actually, I think the mistake was mine and I misread your post. On second reading it's quite clear.

And I agree wholeheartedly. I can't believe newspaper editorialists, academics and the intelligentisia aren't marching in the streets in solidarity with the cartoonists.

I guess political correctness even trumps fundamental values like free speech and freedom from intimidation.

   

You post shit and expect to be taken seriously. Regardless, it is my opinion that its a double standard. No justification is needed.



Read the quote associated with it then.



Perhaps if the west wouldn't send armies into their lands every couple of years they might start to work things out for themselves.



Garbage. They didn't attack or burn anything down so a bunch of BS "allegedly" posted on placards doesn't mean shit.



Perhaps they will when neanderthals stop attacking them. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone.

   

Well it’s a good question!

Many organizations (in Europe anyhow) that process the ability to gather large crowds are left wing – and almost all left wing politicians and organizations are saying: we protect freedom of expression – BUT one should also RESPECT religion. And that does not bring people on the streets!
Historically demonstrations in the west has been left wing organized – but even so we in the west does not have a tradition, like the Arab, of taking to the streets. We change the way we cast our vote at the next election!

But I would very mush hope these demonstrations will be carried out – and will be and inspiration for others – like when we saw the Poles (solidarity) revolting against their communist government – as we all know that became an all Polish demonstration and not a left or right!

Ps. In Denmark the left wing are onboard with the government - but I don’t think many Danes will take to the streets in the present spotlight – we are not used to that – and it’s very had decode what the official opinion in the rest of the west really is! Lots of contra dictionary comments are heard from different countries – only the Dutch, Germans and the Czech Republic have actually made it crystal clear that they stand unquestionably with Denmark on this issue.

Many also feel it has to be organized by at left wing organization or party – to make sure people will not see them as being racists.

   

If your "opinion" is that Jessica Simpson has a nice rack, then I agree, no "justification" is needed. But if you want people to listen to your "opinion" on a political issue, on a debating forum, then justifying it is a pretty solid tactic Derby.




How many US troops were in Iraq prior to 9/11 Derby?

And are you suggesting the "west" has no business in their lands? Does that "opinion" extend to Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan?



Allegedly?



Do you even pick up a fucking newspaper on occasion Derby? Do you watch the news? All this shit was widely reported. As was the comment about the Sharia Law sign.


Please tell me you don't get your entire perspective on the world from your Muslim "friends" and by reading your friend "Dayseed The Jailbird's" shit!




Neanderthal? Yes, of course, anyone like me who is troubled by people who threaten to cause an entire nation (Denmark) to "Drown in its own blood" is a neanderthal.

What if they started threatening to make Canada drown in it's own blood because of the Western Standard's decision to re-print the cartoons?

Would that be fair Derby? Or would that be the ranting and raving of a backward's assed bunch of savages?


And as for your comment about "leaving them alone" let's remember the Danish newspaper didn't go to the Gaza Strip and circulate the cartoons. They printed them in Denmark.

If we have no right to try to influence events in Muslim countries, as you assert, then what right do Muslims have to try to influence events in ours?

   

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