Ron Paul
Igloo @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:58 pm
this guy is the man , too bad he wont get farther than he is now I dont think unless there is the phantom army behind him .
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur4hKqTikqM[/youtube]
dog77_1999 @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Well, he has alot of support among the younger crowd, myself included. As of now, he finished 5th (Thompson where did you come from?) and was ahead of Giliani.
I don't like alot of his views, but he brings honesty to the Republican nomination. I don't see any of the other guys doing any changes. It sad to see many Republicans focusing on social issues rather than the more important economic issues.
OPP @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:50 pm
Here's a guy I wouldn't mind as leader of the "Free World".
Wullu @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:30 pm
Strange bunch to be supporting a guy with the following ideas :
-Build a wall to keep out immigrants, send all the illegals back, end the citizenship right of children born in the US
-Get rid of government environmental standards and replace them with the right to sue if you suffer results from Pollution.
-He’s against universal medical coverage AND private HMO’s or insurance. Instead he wants to make medical expenses tax deductible and create health care savings accounts.
-Wants to weaken the FDA, especially when it comes to regulating ‘natural’ or ‘alternative’ medical products. He’s also against universal vaccination.
-Opposes Abortion.
-Wants to truly eliminate gun controls, eliminate the Federal Firearms License.
And of course that does not even begin to cover his white supremacist supporters and the rest of the nut jobs he refuses to disavow.
But hey, whatever floats your boats.
Zipperfish @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:37 pm
He needs a last name.
OPP @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:09 pm
Wullu Wullu:
Strange bunch to be supporting a guy with the following ideas :
-Build a wall to keep out immigrants, send all the illegals back, end the citizenship right of children born in the US
-Get rid of government environmental standards and replace them with the right to sue if you suffer results from Pollution.
-He’s against universal medical coverage AND private HMO’s or insurance. Instead he wants to make medical expenses tax deductible and create health care savings accounts.
-Wants to weaken the FDA, especially when it comes to regulating ‘natural’ or ‘alternative’ medical products. He’s also against universal vaccination.
-Opposes Abortion.
-Wants to truly eliminate gun controls, eliminate the Federal Firearms License.
And of course that does not even begin to cover his white supremacist supporters and the rest of the nut jobs he refuses to disavow.
But hey, whatever floats your boats.
-Build a wall to keep out immigrants, send all the illegals back, end the citizenship right of children born in the US
-Get rid of government environmental standards and replace them with the right to sue if you suffer results from Pollution.
-He’s against universal medical coverage AND private HMO’s or insurance. Instead he wants to make medical expenses tax deductible and create health care savings accounts.
-Wants to weaken the FDA, especially when it comes to regulating ‘natural’ or ‘alternative’ medical products. He’s also against universal vaccination.
-Opposes Abortion.
-Wants to truly eliminate gun controls, eliminate the Federal Firearms License.
And of course that does not even begin to cover his white supremacist supporters and the rest of the nut jobs he refuses to disavow.
But hey, whatever floats your boats.
I think he's very intelligent, honest, charismatic and above all incorruptable, as in moraly incorruptable.
He wouldn't float my boat if he was a candidate in swedish elections but he's the best, or perhaps the most realistic choice of those I would prefer, the U.S has to offer.
Daovonnaex @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:31 pm
Wullu Wullu:
Strange bunch to be supporting a guy with the following ideas :
-Build a wall to keep out immigrants, send all the illegals back, end the citizenship right of children born in the US
-Build a wall to keep out immigrants, send all the illegals back, end the citizenship right of children born in the US
Awesome
Wullu Wullu:
-Get rid of government environmental standards and replace them with the right to sue if you suffer results from Pollution.
More excellent news
Wullu Wullu:
-He’s against universal medical coverage AND private HMO’s or insurance. Instead he wants to make medical expenses tax deductible and create health care savings accounts.
Outstanding
Wullu Wullu:
-Wants to weaken the FDA, especially when it comes to regulating ‘natural’ or ‘alternative’ medical products. He’s also against universal vaccination.
Superb
Wullu Wullu:
-Opposes Abortion.
Don't care
Wullu Wullu:
-Wants to truly eliminate gun controls, eliminate the Federal Firearms License.
The best position yet
Wullu Wullu:
And of course that does not even begin to cover his white supremacist supporters and the rest of the nut jobs he refuses to disavow.
In 2004, John Kerry received the endorsement of the American Communist Party. I don't recall howls of protest at this nor do I recall calls for Kerry to rebuke them. Why the double standards (not accusing you of having them personally)?
xerxes @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:35 pm
Ron Paul is from an era 3 centuries ago. Essentially, Ron Paul should rechristen himself Adam Smith because it's his ideas on government Paul is espousing.
camerontech @ Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:38 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
He needs a last name.
goes against my rules....never trust a guy with two first names....
Wullu @ Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:26 am
And then there is my favourite quote from ol Ronnie boy.
$1:
Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists — and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.
Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.
Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That’s what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn’t ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.
Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.
Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That’s what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn’t ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.
Well, I guess that would explain why he has not refuted the support he gets from the white supremacists eh?
Igloo @ Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:18 am
Wullu Wullu:
And then there is my favourite quote from ol Ronnie boy.
Well, I guess that would explain why he has not refuted the support he gets from the white supremacists eh?
$1:
Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists — and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.
Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.
Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That’s what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn’t ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.
Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.
Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That’s what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn’t ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.
Well, I guess that would explain why he has not refuted the support he gets from the white supremacists eh?
theres nothing in there that is factually incorrect his interpretation maybe is what you disagree with im sure.
him calling a spade a spade is what bugs you the most. The bottom line is he is correct . That is what bugs the Politically correct masses of both republican and democratic stripes alike
ryan29 @ Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:31 am
odd but have noticed everyone in various internet chat rooms is focusing all there attention on ron paul and ignoring all the other nominess who might actually win this nomination . as well as paying little attention to the democratic one as well .
the reality is someone other than ron paul will win that nomiantion , his only chance as in being chosen as running mate but even that is a long shot .
Ruxpercnd @ Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:33 am
The purpose of the Democratic and Republican parties is to steal as much tax money as possible and then fight over it. This shapes the policies and viewpoints of the two parties. If you removed wallowing-in-tax-money motivation, then you would see a lot more honesty and diversity in views. Ron Paul is already there.
Like Diogenes, he should get a lantern to hold up... looking for that honest man.
Well..... Diogenes wasn't really very popular, was he?
Ruxpercnd @ Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:40 am
ryan29 ryan29:
odd but have noticed everyone in various internet chat rooms is focusing all there attention on ron paul and ignoring all the other nominess who might actually win this nomination . as well as paying little attention to the democratic one as well .
the reality is someone other than ron paul will win that nomiantion , his only chance as in being chosen as running mate but even that is a long shot .
the reality is someone other than ron paul will win that nomiantion , his only chance as in being chosen as running mate but even that is a long shot .
You miss the point.... Instead of just voting against someone or not voting at all, voting for Ron Paul gives us something to vote for. Even if Ron Paul is not nominated I would either write his name on the ballot or my own name if he wasn't around.
I am not going to be forced not to vote. The limited presentation of candidates offered by the two corrupt parties reminds me of how Soviets used to "vote" for their Communist party members... vote for the one candidate or don't vote at all.
fifeboy @ Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:29 am
Daovonnaex Daovonnaex:
In 2004, John Kerry received the endorsement of the American Communist Party. I don't recall howls of protest at this nor do I recall calls for Kerry to rebuke them. Why the double standards (not accusing you of having them personally)?
Probably because you could get the whole of the American Communist Party into my living room, which my wife thinks is too small. Seems to me that white supremacists are a little thicker on the ground than that.