I like this guy, although he's over the top, he has no problem sharing his opinion, and although its controversial, it has the same general theme as Edmund Burke's quote "All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is good men do nothing"
Water, water, everywhere water. Know it, embrace it, manage it or drown. Same goes for cars, trucks, chain saws, knives, crowbars, blowtorches, teakettles and guns. I will not be denied the pragmatic, functional utility of anything based on the inept, clumsy, irresponsible failure of brain-dead, uncoordinated numskulls.
I will not drown; drink and drive; chain-saw massacre anyone; stumble; slice, burn or shoot myself, nor will I ever hold up a bank. So the best advice would be to think, improvise, adapt and overcome, man up, but by all means, leave me alone. You don't ban electric guitars just because someone may have a lapse in logic, goodwill and decency and spontaneously break out into country and Western music. The vast majority of sensible people will use electric guitars as God intended and whip out good, sexy rock 'n' roll licks.
I need my cars, trucks, chain saws, knives, crowbars, blowtorches, scalding-hot water, guitars and guns, thank you. Amazingly, I have mastered them all, and they are all wonderful ingredients for my American dream of rugged individualism, declared independence and self-sufficiency. They all serve me well, and I am not giving up any of them. Ever.
The masses must never be controlled for the sake of the lunatic fringe. Remember "Don't Tread on Me"? Don't.
The National Rifle Association (NRA) was formed 139 years ago. Members of this ultimate "we the people" grass-roots family organization dedicated to the self-evident truth of self-defense will gather together in Charlotte, N.C., May 14 through 16 for our annual meetings to celebrate good over evil. It is a beautiful thing. I will be there.
With NRA memberships increasing and gun and ammo sales and concealed-weapons permits surging at unprecedented rates, never in the history of mankind have more people possessed more firepower and, most significantly, carried more concealed weapons on their persons than today across America.
And the inescapable truth - as FBI crime reports and numerous law enforcement and academic studies conclude - is that more guns clearly equal less crime. Where there are more guns per capita, violent crime goes down, particularly crimes of assault, such as rape, burglary and robbery. This is good. This is what the NRA stands for. Anti-gunners, not so much.
It is indeed Chicago Mayor Richard Daley's gun-ban dream of "gun-free zones" that have proved to be the guaranteed slaughter zones, where the most innocent lives are lost every time. Think Columbine, Virginia Tech, Lane Bryant, Northwest Illinois University, New Jersey, Salt Lake City and Omaha malls, Luby's Cafeteria, Calgary University, Toronto, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Boston, Flight 93, the mayor's office in San Francisco, ad nauseam. Peace and love will get you killed, and unarmed helplessness is a welcome matt for evil. It's common sense unless, of course, your anthem goes "baaa ... baaa ... baaa."
So why in God's good name would any human being wish to force unarmed helplessness on another? That level of cruel indecency and forced victimization is incomprehensible to me and about 100 million Americans who own guns and believe in self-defense. The lunatic-fringe left won't dare touch the issue of gun control. Self-defense is the most powerful, driving instinct in good people everywhere. To deny this is evil personified.
Write this down: Gun-free zones are a felon's playground. Ban gun-free zones now. Join the NRA.
Good people don't want the rapist to succeed. We want him dead. We don't want our homes invaded. We want invaders dead. We don't like carjackers. We like them dead. We don't like armed robbers. We like them dead.
We have examined all the evidence we could possibly need to know that calling 911 is a joke unless, of course, the cops bring a dustpan and a mop to clean up the dead monster we just shot while protecting our families.
The choice is clear: Gun control as forced by the Chuck Schumers and Michael Bloombergs of the world is complicit in every violent crime committed. Conversely, gun control a la Ted Nugent is putting the second shot through the same hole as the first shot, where innocent lives are saved and recidivistic maggots come to a screeching halt, felled by the lovely ballet of good over evil we call the "Double Tap Center Mass Boogie." Learn it, know it, love it, shoot it. Good guys should live, bad guys, not so much.
It is reassuring and ultimately convenient that fresh from escaping the scourge of tyranny and slavery of kings and emperors, our brilliant, sensible Founding Fathers knew it was important to write down the self-evident truth that the right to self-defense is surely a God-given individual right to keep and bear arms.
Write this down, too: "To keep" means it is mine, you can't have it. "Bear" means I've got mine right here on me. "Shall not be infringed" echoes that beautiful "Don't Tread on Me" chorus. Sing it.
I like the U.S. Constitution and our sacred Bill Of Rights, but quite frankly, I don't really need them to know in my heart and soul the list of self-evident truths therein. Those came from thinking, common-sense men who refused to be helpless, dependent slaves to anyone or anything. Those truths are all burned forever into my soul. I live them, no matter what.
Meanwhile, in order to stop the drowning and murders, I will work on banning water; President Obama can try to ban guns. Good luck. Save an innocent life, join the NRA and celebrate 139 years of keeping and bearing. Drive a bad guy nuts. Then shoot him.
Ted Nugent is an unstoppable American rock 'n' roll, sporting and political-activist icon. Author of "Ted, White & Blue: The Nugent Manifesto" and "God, Guns & Rock 'N' Roll" (Regnery Publishing), he serves in the NRA board of directors.
Yeah, Nugent is over the top, he is also correct on this matter - 100% so. Like him, I am also going to work on banning water, it causes hundreds of thousands of deaths and it has to go
Ted's a cool guy. He used to hang around Bobcaygeon for the spring bear hunt. Then anti-hunting nut Bob Shadd bribed a bunch of Ministry of Natural Resources government officials to cancel the spring bear hunt. It's done wonders for the economy in Victoria County and places north.
You don't ban electric guitars just because someone may have a lapse in logic, goodwill and decency and spontaneously break out into country and Western music. The vast majority of sensible people will use electric guitars as God intended and whip out good, sexy rock 'n' roll licks.
Ted's a cool guy. He used to hang around Bobcaygeon for the spring bear hunt. Then anti-hunting nut Bob Shadd bribed a bunch of Ministry of Natural Resources government officials to cancel the spring bear hunt. It's done wonders for the economy in Victoria County and places north.
In my unsupported opinion, he's mostly wrong in what he's said above.
I realize you feel strongly that people should be able to own guns and think gun control is a failed policy (positions that I share BTW). But seriously this is what, the sixth thread about gun control you've started in the last couple of months? At this point everyone has made their point of view known, there have been rebuttals and counter-rebuttals made by people on both side of this issue. It just doesn't seem like anyone is going to be convinced to change their position one way or another. I really don't see what posting thread after thread on guns is going to accomplish. I agree with a good chunk of you gun views but might be a decent idea to give it a rest and find something else to talk about, at least for a couple of months.
Now that that's out of the way. I agree that gun control doesn't work very well although I can defiantly see why people would support it even if the reasons are bad. The problem with the gun debate is that its fueled more by emotion than facts. Unfortunately data on how guns, CCW laws, registries, etc affect crime rates are inconclusive at best. There are just too many factor that affect crime rates to get truly conclusive data. Some studies show CCW lower crime while other attributed lowered crime rates to other causes. At the very least it seems that CCW permits aren't detrimental to crime prevention and might actually help. States that have instituted have seen crime rates drop or remain relatively stable, so giving properly licensed citizen the ability to defend themselves against criminals who will be carrying regardless of what the law says seems like a pretty good idea.
I never understood some of the resistance people who aren't particularly anti-gun have against CCW. When its been brought up previously people start off about how it will be the wild west with blood running in the street. The experiment has been run in the states, and its been a success CCW laws don't lead to more gun crime but instead give citizens a means of protecting themselves.
The gun free zone thing doesn't make much sense to me either. It seem that if society has given its citizens the ability to carry guns for self defense then it doesn't make sense to say that you can defend your self with a gun in these places but try it on a university campus and your breaking the law. All gun free zones do is give criminals opportunity to attack people with out fear that the victim will fight back. The sign out front isn't going to stop a criminal so why should we be stopping the law abiding citizen who is carrying? It always seems like the mass shooting happen in gun free zone. Can you even imagine a mass shooting at a gun show or NRA convention? How far do you think the shooter would get before being pumped full of lead?
A more informative piece from Ted would include a discussion of how this All-American Obama-hatin' uber-patriot dodged the Vietnam draft. But he'd probably walk out of the room on you if you mentioned his unofficial statutory rapist status because of all the 13 and 14 year old groupies he fucked.
Yep, that's some 'common sense' hero some of you folks chose to elevate. Sometimes some incredibly awesome rock'n'roll talent unfortunately attaches itself to some incredibly bad people, e.g. the Nuge.
I tried my best to turn the thread into something more about Ted Nugent than guns or a discussion of the axeing of the Ontario spring bear hunt. What more can I do?
Speaking of Paul Simon, what are the lyrics to "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard" all about? We've been jamming the tune, but we're not in agreement about the meaning of the lyrics. Anti-war protest? Drug deal? Homosexual act? I think it's about a gay GI who gets caught (by the radical priest) blowing Julio down by the school yard.
thanks for sharing your opinion that we dont need another thread. you comments seem reasonable. however, i couldn't help but notice that this topic is compelling enough that you took the time to write a bit more to share with us. if not for that reason alone, I'm glad that i started this thread
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Another gun thread?
I realize you feel strongly that people should be able to own guns and think gun control is a failed policy (positions that I share BTW). But seriously this is what, the sixth thread about gun control you've started in the last couple of months? At this point everyone has made their point of view known, there have been rebuttals and counter-rebuttals made by people on both side of this issue. It just doesn't seem like anyone is going to be convinced to change their position one way or another. I really don't see what posting thread after thread on guns is going to accomplish. I agree with a good chunk of you gun views but might be a decent idea to give it a rest and find something else to talk about, at least for a couple of months.
Now that that's out of the way. I agree that gun control doesn't work very well although I can defiantly see why people would support it even if the reasons are bad. The problem with the gun debate is that its fueled more by emotion than facts. Unfortunately data on how guns, CCW laws, registries, etc affect crime rates are inconclusive at best. There are just too many factor that affect crime rates to get truly conclusive data. Some studies show CCW lower crime while other attributed lowered crime rates to other causes. At the very least it seems that CCW permits aren't detrimental to crime prevention and might actually help. States that have instituted have seen crime rates drop or remain relatively stable, so giving properly licensed citizen the ability to defend themselves against criminals who will be carrying regardless of what the law says seems like a pretty good idea.
I never understood some of the resistance people who aren't particularly anti-gun have against CCW. When its been brought up previously people start off about how it will be the wild west with blood running in the street. The experiment has been run in the states, and its been a success CCW laws don't lead to more gun crime but instead give citizens a means of protecting themselves.
The gun free zone thing doesn't make much sense to me either. It seem that if society has given its citizens the ability to carry guns for self defense then it doesn't make sense to say that you can defend your self with a gun in these places but try it on a university campus and your breaking the law. All gun free zones do is give criminals opportunity to attack people with out fear that the victim will fight back. The sign out front isn't going to stop a criminal so why should we be stopping the law abiding citizen who is carrying? It always seems like the mass shooting happen in gun free zone. Can you even imagine a mass shooting at a gun show or NRA convention? How far do you think the shooter would get before being pumped full of lead?
I like Ted's music. I also think Ted is a fucking dickhead. Quite frankly, anyone that would volunteer to execute a mentally challenged "criminal" has some fucked up opinions.
Another one of Ted's fucked up opinions was on "pot heads". He don't like 'em. After all, it was those pot heads buying his records and seeing his concerts that rocketed him to fame.
Fer fuck sakes ASL, using Nugent to illustrate your point would be like using a scientologist to illustrate the benefits of religion. Both are complete and utter morons.