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U.S. May Veto UN Vote on Schiavo

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Scape @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:55 am

UNITED NATIONS (RBN) - France is to put to a vote on Thursday a U.N. resolution referring the Schiavo case to the International Criminal Court, daring Washington to cast an embarrassing veto or accept a judgement by a court it opposes.

The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday refused to order Terri Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted, rejecting a desperate appeal by her parents to keep their severely brain-damaged daughter alive. The U.N. Security Council has been deadlocked on where to refer the case to the ICC as a possible crime against humanity.

France's U.N. ambassador, Jean-Marc de la Sabliere, had introduced a draft resolution that would refer the Schiavo case to the ICC, the world's first permanent criminal court, as recommended by a U.N. panel of experts.

But the United States offered to create a new U.N.-Florida State tribunal in Miami that has drawn little support, with several council members arguing that only the ICC already has investigators on staff ready to begin work.

The Bush administration objects to this court, set up in The Hague to try war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. It fears U.S. citizens could face politically motivated prosecutions.

However, a U.S. veto could send a signal to the United States courts that legal officials and judges were safe from punishment in the Schiavo case, where arguments are escalating, thousands have demonstrated and millions of people have voiced religious concerns about the case.

Uncertain yet is whether nine Security Council members will vote in favor of the ICC, the minimum needed to adopt a resolution in the 15-member council. If there are not enough votes, the United States would be spared a veto.

The Bush administration, in the forefront of trying to get action on the Schiavo case, sought to break the deadlock on Tuesday by denying international relevance of the case and referring it back to Florida.

Le Monde describes the Darfur resolutions situation as a new crisis between France and the US

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It seems that Russia, China and Algeria are rather favorable to the American approach. Argentina, the Benign one, Brazil, Great Britain, Denmark, Greece, Romania and Tanzania would line up behind the French initiative, while Japan and the Philippines would be undecided.

   



WarHawkster @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:04 am

Hey, France used their veto!

   



Scape @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:45 am

Godz46 Godz46:
Scape....for your own safety man....stay the hell away from the US....I seriouslyt think you'd be shot if you brought this opinion up!!! I'M BEING DEAD SERIOUS....don't say this in the US.


Been there several times but frankly what it is today I would not want to visit the US anymore anyway, but thanks for the concern and I am not being sarcastic. I may disagree with the vast majority of what you say but I believe in your right to say it. Stark contrast to the reality in the US today, sadly. FYI the article posted is NOT my opinion, it's the news.

   



_747 @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:12 am

Godz46

As I have stated in other threads the :twisted: European Union/United States :twisted: polemic:twisted: has begun :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ultimately, who is the world going to line up behind :?: The United State or the European Union :?:

Whatever the outcome of this, blame your own media :!: : Fox, MSNBC, CNN.. for drawing in the attention on this issue. :wink: Wow, imagine if the media gave this kind of attention to a homeless guy freezing and starving on your streets :?: Go figure :roll:

   



DrDoLittle @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:29 am

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daring Washington to cast an embarrassing veto


Get real. Does anybody really think they would be "embarrassed" to veto something the french introduced. :roll:

One more reason to tell the ICC to go *uck themselves.

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a U.S. veto could send a signal to the United States courts that legal officials and judges were safe from punishment in the Schiavo case


So they want to prosecute the judges because they don't like their decision? Now there's a novel idea.

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:38 am

Wow, who the hell does France think they are? This is a domestic issue, non of Frances business. To my knowledge, aren't there a handfull of countries who already have Euthanasia or what not as being legal? I'm sorry, but this just pisses me off that France, of all countries, is trying to put forth things to the UN on a domestic US issues, which isn't even a country issue, but a state issue. It's like the UN stepping in if Canada tried to legalize pot and France calling for a vote.. The Terri case shouldn't even be up to the government but the state/legal guardian. France needs to worry more about themselves, and not what is going on in the US.

   



dknychic @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:28 am

What the heck makes this a UN or French issue :?. It’s not the business of anyone outside the States. Heck it shouldn’t have been the business of anyone outside the family, but what’s done is done. It’s already a messy situation as it is, we don’t need the UN (or the French) trying to complicate it further :twisted: .



On a more serious note (jk), you know what this means don’t ya….The world is soon gonna be under one gov’t. Mwahahaha! Pick your poison now guys, ‘cause soon each country will have to campaign for the title of world capital and debate on whether to call the world leader a prez/pm /king/czar/ sheik….. oh the fun times ahead!

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:38 am

Godz46 Godz46:
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What the heck makes this a UN or French issue . It’s not the business of anyone outside the States


For ONCE we agree. ANyway this is good in a way. It will give the Republicans more momentum and leverage for the midterms next year. Make the democrats look like a bunch of UN-Pussies who would rather listen to the French rather than their own citiznes.


Plus it would give the current Anti-UN campaign more muscle.





When did the democrats say they supported the UN on this issue?

   



Dayseed @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:04 pm

I have to take up the side of the US on this one. The UN should piss off. The ONLY person who should have the say on this one is her husband.

   



Franco Unamerican @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:04 pm

i completely disagree as well with the UN becoming involved in this internal matter. i doubt however that if it did it would help the republicans...

   



alienofwar @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:09 pm

Everybody has to agree, its a domestic matter...has nothing to do with the French or anyone else for that matter.

   



xerxes @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:35 pm

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i completely disagree as well with the UN becoming involved in this internal matter. i doubt however that if it did it would help the republicans...


good point. They've already shot themselves in the foot with this issue. Why should the Un take the shots for them?

   



Scape @ Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:32 pm

Nazi Auctions

I remember a time not too long ago when most Americans actually believed they had a right to govern themselves.

   



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