BBC: Crippling debt ‘linked to depression’
BartSimpson @ Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:29 pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47693725
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People with mental health issues are three-and-a-half times more likely to be in problem debt than those without such conditions, analysis suggests.
This link was even stronger for certain conditions such as bipolar disorder and depression, the Money and Mental Health Policy Institute said.
It said those with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) were six times more likely to have serious money troubles.
It is leading calls for greater protection for those in this situation.
This link was even stronger for certain conditions such as bipolar disorder and depression, the Money and Mental Health Policy Institute said.
It said those with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) were six times more likely to have serious money troubles.
It is leading calls for greater protection for those in this situation.
More at the link and it is worth reading. But it doesn't copy over to CKA very well.
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DrCaleb @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:19 am
On the same lines:
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Improving the quality and availability of food could help reduce mental health issues among Indigenous populations in Canada, say researchers who analyzed survey responses from 14,000 Indigenous adults.
Suicide is a major cause of death among First Nations, Métis and Inuit people. Collectively, suicide rates among Indigenous peoples are two to three times higher than among non-Indigenous Canadians, according to previous responses.
Now, researchers have looked at how income-related inequalities relate to psychological distress and suicidal behaviours among Indigenous peoples living off-reserve in Canada.
The survey responses were originally filed with Statistics Canada in 2012, but the numbers had never been crunched this way until they were analyzed and published in Monday's issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal.
Suicide is a major cause of death among First Nations, Métis and Inuit people. Collectively, suicide rates among Indigenous peoples are two to three times higher than among non-Indigenous Canadians, according to previous responses.
Now, researchers have looked at how income-related inequalities relate to psychological distress and suicidal behaviours among Indigenous peoples living off-reserve in Canada.
The survey responses were originally filed with Statistics Canada in 2012, but the numbers had never been crunched this way until they were analyzed and published in Monday's issue of the Canadian Medical Association Journal.
'People need access to healthy meals:' Inequality among Indigenous peoples may explain psychological distress
BartSimpson @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:25 am
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Now, researchers have looked at how income-related inequalities relate to psychological distress and suicidal behaviours among Indigenous peoples living off-reserve in Canada.
A person's income is an outcome of their personal choices. It is not a cause, it is an indicator or a symptom of a different problem.
But fixing the problems why Indigenous people can't assimilate into the broader context of Canadian society would require intensive programs to fix the Indigenous culture and break the cycle of poverty.
You folks don't have the balls to do that so the problem will persist until the Indigenous people become demographically irrelevant, their reserves get closed, and the few people remaining get forced into assimilation.
DrCaleb @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:30 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
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Now, researchers have looked at how income-related inequalities relate to psychological distress and suicidal behaviours among Indigenous peoples living off-reserve in Canada.
A person's income is an outcome of their personal choices. It is not a cause, it is an indicator or a symptom of a different problem.
But fixing the problems why Indigenous people can't assimilate into the broader context of Canadian society would require intensive programs to fix the Indigenous culture and break the cycle of poverty.
You folks don't have the balls to do that so the problem will persist until the Indigenous people become demographically irrelevant, their reserves get closed, and the few people remaining get forced into assimilation.
Why do we need to fix what worked for centuries before we arrived? Perhaps it's the system we imposed on them that is broken. They were doing fine before us.
Now these research papers describe what we already knew; that keeping people in poverty with inadequate nutrition and excessive stress leads to mental problems and depression.
martin14 @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:35 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
But fixing the problems why Indigenous people can't assimilate into the broader context of Canadian society would require intensive programs to fix the Indigenous culture and break the cycle of poverty.
The Soviets had 2 generations of nonPC unfettered big hammer social
policy to do that, and couldn't.
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You folks don't have the balls to do that so the problem will persist until the Indigenous people become demographically irrelevant, their reserves get closed, and the few people remaining get forced into assimilation.
It's too easy to buy off the leftists with...... Mo' money !
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BartSimpson @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:42 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Why do we need to fix what worked for centuries before we arrived? Perhaps it's the system we imposed on them that is broken. They were doing fine before us.
Then cut them off from modern society and don't fuck with them when they violate a fishing quota, kill and eat an endangered whale, or otherwise do something that pisses off liberal snowflakes who won't leave these people the fuck alone or do what it takes to give them the tools to lift themselves into prosperity.
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Now these research papers describe what we already knew; that keeping people in poverty with inadequate nutrition and excessive stress leads to mental problems and depression.
Then don't just put them on welfare and enable their situation. Either let them go back to their subsistence economy (ie leave them the fuck alone) or help them assimilate into Canadian society.
Robair @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:43 am
Hold the phone, their issues don't stem from Indigenous culture, a vast swath of that population are victims of, or descendants of victims of the residential schools.
That's not some far-off distant ancient Canadian history either. Chanie Wenjack would be in his mid 60s today.
DrCaleb @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:49 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Why do we need to fix what worked for centuries before we arrived? Perhaps it's the system we imposed on them that is broken. They were doing fine before us.
Then cut them off from modern society and don't fuck with them when they violate a fishing quota, kill and eat an endangered whale, or otherwise do something that pisses off liberal snowflakes who won't leave these people the fuck alone or do what it takes to give them the tools to lift themselves into prosperity.
That's exactly what they need. But it's not just 'us' that prevents this. It's things like oil exploration and pipelines that reduce caribou herds that are the only 'grocery store' for much of the North.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Now these research papers describe what we already knew; that keeping people in poverty with inadequate nutrition and excessive stress leads to mental problems and depression.
Then don't just put them on welfare and enable their situation. Either let them go back to their subsistence economy (ie leave them the fuck alone) or help them assimilate into Canadian society.
Until the "Indian Act" is abolished, many will remain wards of the Crown, and forced to live on reserves that are poorly maintained by their landlords - "The Crown". The ones that choose to leave their homes and families and everyone they know, and move to the cities never really feel like they are welcome. There are hundreds of stories that we could read here. This is just one.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4043492/tina ... g-inquiry/
BartSimpson @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:05 am
Like I said, leave them the fuck alone or else help them lift themselves from poverty. Don't just keep them in generation after generation of welfare and despair expecting that they won't kill themselves.
BartSimpson @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:06 am
Robair Robair:
Hold the phone, their issues don't stem from Indigenous culture, a vast swath of that population are victims of, or descendants of victims of the residential schools.
That's not some far-off distant ancient Canadian history either. Chanie Wenjack would be in his mid 60s today.
That's not some far-off distant ancient Canadian history either. Chanie Wenjack would be in his mid 60s today.
Hold the phone, your residential schools and other dunder-headed programs by well-meaning bigots helped to create what is now the state of Indigenous culture.
DrCaleb @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:10 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Like I said, leave them the fuck alone or else help them lift themselves from poverty. Don't just keep them in generation after generation of welfare and despair expecting that they won't kill themselves.
On that, we agree. Just like in your article too, keeping people (or letting them get) in the debt trap is equally reprehensible.
One of the things I am optimistic about in life is knowing that low debt and modest savings means I can whether an economic storm if I have to.
BartSimpson @ Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:47 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Like I said, leave them the fuck alone or else help them lift themselves from poverty. Don't just keep them in generation after generation of welfare and despair expecting that they won't kill themselves.
On that, we agree. Just like in your article too, keeping people (or letting them get) in the debt trap is equally reprehensible.
One of the things I am optimistic about in life is knowing that low debt and modest savings means I can whether an economic storm if I have to.
Speaking of debt, Lisa and I have been debt free for ten years come June.
Can't even tell you what freedom it is to get my paycheck and not have anyone claiming it from me.