Do you believe in God?
WLDB @ Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:38 pm
Lord-Beaverbrook Lord-Beaverbrook:
I think Shakespear was drunk everytime he wrote a play. People just assumed he wrote funny on purpose when infact it was just drunk talk and spelling mistakes!
Fascist! I came up with that line. He wasnt drunk! He was stoned. And he was listening to Eric Clapton singing Cocaine.
Lord-Beaverbrook @ Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:42 pm
Nein! He was listening to the ironic alanis song named ironic where she's trying to give examples of irony yet none of them are ironic, just unfortunate. Which is ironic because the song is suppose to be just that but isn't.
WLDB @ Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:47 pm
Whatever.
The point of the matter is I do not beleive in god. There is no proof that one exists and there are far too many religions for one to say with 100% certainty that they are the true ones.
Lord-Beaverbrook @ Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:50 pm
WLDB WLDB:
Whatever.
The point of the matter is I do not beleive in god. There is no proof that one exists and there are far too many religions for one to say with 100% certainty that they are the true ones.
The point of the matter is I do not beleive in god. There is no proof that one exists and there are far too many religions for one to say with 100% certainty that they are the true ones.
I don't see the corolation between Shakespear having a drug and alcohol adictions and not believing in any God due to there being so many religions that are all pretty damn similar.
CDN_Raptor @ Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:59 pm
Wether there is a god or not, in times of crisis people need something to turn to and faith is the best thing in the darkest hours to help get you through them...
The only 2 things that you can never lose if you hold on to them is the feelings in your heart and your beliefs
I dont believe in destiny and never will, we all create are own futures
WLDB @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:06 am
Lord-Beaverbrook Lord-Beaverbrook:
WLDB WLDB:
Whatever.
The point of the matter is I do not beleive in god. There is no proof that one exists and there are far too many religions for one to say with 100% certainty that they are the true ones.
The point of the matter is I do not beleive in god. There is no proof that one exists and there are far too many religions for one to say with 100% certainty that they are the true ones.
I don't see the corolation between Shakespear having a drug and alcohol adictions and not believing in any God due to there being so many religions that are all pretty damn similar.
Thats why I abandoned Shakespeare and went back to the religious discussion.
Lord-Beaverbrook @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:13 am
Well I think there may be a god. So many wonderful things that only humans expierience (vast amount of emiotions) I've never seen a greedy dog! Why is it that only humans are so advances so capable of good yet have so much evil. I have never seen an evil moose before. People have said between their death and revival (medical... devices) that they've seen heaven and such. I have seen no miracles but such things as "The miracle of dunkirk" and the super blizzards in soviet russia and such things seem to convient to just be the natural way of things. I do not believe in any of the gods presented to me thus far but I could believe that there is a superior race out there guiding us.
WLDB @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:16 am
Lord-Beaverbrook Lord-Beaverbrook:
Well I think there may be a god. So many wonderful things that only humans expierience (vast amount of emiotions) I've never seen a greedy dog! Why is it that only humans are so advances so capable of good yet have so much evil. I have never seen an evil moose before. People have said between their death and revival (medical... devices) that they've seen heaven and such. I have seen no miracles but such things as "The miracle of dunkirk" and the super blizzards in soviet russia and such things seem to convient to just be the natural way of things. I do not believe in any of the gods presented to me thus far but I could believe that there is a superior race out there guiding us.
Dunkirk was no maricle. Hitler refused to allow Goering to annihilate the Allied troops with the Luftwaffe. Hitler was hoping this would make England willing to negotiate peace. In the end those same troops returned to Europe to fight the Germans.
Oh I have died. I dont remember seeing anything. 2 minutes of death and all I got was a huge scar.
Lord-Beaverbrook @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:23 am
WLDB WLDB:
Lord-Beaverbrook Lord-Beaverbrook:
Well I think there may be a god. So many wonderful things that only humans expierience (vast amount of emiotions) I've never seen a greedy dog! Why is it that only humans are so advances so capable of good yet have so much evil. I have never seen an evil moose before. People have said between their death and revival (medical... devices) that they've seen heaven and such. I have seen no miracles but such things as "The miracle of dunkirk" and the super blizzards in soviet russia and such things seem to convient to just be the natural way of things. I do not believe in any of the gods presented to me thus far but I could believe that there is a superior race out there guiding us.
Dunkirk was no maricle. Hitler refused to allow Goering to annihilate the Allied troops with the Luftwaffe. Hitler was hoping this would make England willing to negotiate peace. In the end those same troops returned to Europe to fight the Germans.
Oh I have died. I dont remember seeing anything. 2 minutes of death and all I got was a huge scar.
What you ment to say was hitler didn't allow his military to destroy the allies because he wanted the luftwaffe to do it because he was cocky but then the thick fog set in to disallow the luftwaffe from flying.
hockeyfan @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:31 am
I believe in God and She has an awesome sense of humour. For example I have a greedy dog. She's small and tough and my other two dogs, both bigger don't get to eat while she's around. I have to feed them in three different places, hidden from each other. We have also had an ongoing fight with a moose who has decided that this is her territory, we have no right to be in it and has chased all three dogs, myself, and my wife with evil intent.
WLDB @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:35 am
Lord-Beaverbrook Lord-Beaverbrook:
WLDB WLDB:
Lord-Beaverbrook Lord-Beaverbrook:
Well I think there may be a god. So many wonderful things that only humans expierience (vast amount of emiotions) I've never seen a greedy dog! Why is it that only humans are so advances so capable of good yet have so much evil. I have never seen an evil moose before. People have said between their death and revival (medical... devices) that they've seen heaven and such. I have seen no miracles but such things as "The miracle of dunkirk" and the super blizzards in soviet russia and such things seem to convient to just be the natural way of things. I do not believe in any of the gods presented to me thus far but I could believe that there is a superior race out there guiding us.
Dunkirk was no maricle. Hitler refused to allow Goering to annihilate the Allied troops with the Luftwaffe. Hitler was hoping this would make England willing to negotiate peace. In the end those same troops returned to Europe to fight the Germans.
Oh I have died. I dont remember seeing anything. 2 minutes of death and all I got was a huge scar.
What you ment to say was hitler didn't allow his military to destroy the allies because he wanted the luftwaffe to do it because he was cocky but then the thick fog set in to disallow the luftwaffe from flying.
No. It was a bright sunny day when Dunkirk happened. Hitler allowed them to escape so he would have a card to play in making peace. It is in many books. The Luftwaffe was more than able to do it. They actually sent a few planes to scare the allies and kill a few. Nothing compared to what they could have done though. The allies knew that.
Mustang1 @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:37 am
I’ve posted this before, but I think it applies here:
If spirituality has a beginning or inception, why then does it manifest itself in different ways across many cultures and civilizations in the ancient past? Why are there so many varieties of religion (of the pre-historical persuasion)? Where is the commonality? If a “higher being” is omnipresent and omnipotent, why is there ambiguity, disarray and religious fragmentation and doctrinal termination found within both the archaeological and historical record?
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It’s a human construct that serves specific (either conscious or not) social, political, spiritual, psychological and philosophical, needs of certain cultures/civilizations/individuals and is largely dependent upon the general temporal makeup of its contemporary era. In short humans develop it, manipulate it, use it, exploit it, foster it and revere it till the time ultimately arrives to end it.
hockeyfan @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:56 am
religion is the opiate of the masses?
I don't think so anymore, politics is the opiate of the masses.
Lord-Beaverbrook @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:13 am
Mustang1 Mustang1:
I’ve posted this before, but I think it applies here:
If spirituality has a beginning or inception, why then does it manifest itself in different ways across many cultures and civilizations in the ancient past? Why are there so many varieties of religion (of the pre-historical persuasion)? Where is the commonality? If a “higher being” is omnipresent and omnipotent, why is there ambiguity, disarray and religious fragmentation and doctrinal termination found within both the archaeological and historical record?
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It’s a human construct that serves specific (either conscious or not) social, political, spiritual, psychological and philosophical, needs of certain cultures/civilizations/individuals and is largely dependent upon the general temporal makeup of its contemporary era. In short humans develop it, manipulate it, use it, exploit it, foster it and revere it till the time ultimately arrives to end it.
If spirituality has a beginning or inception, why then does it manifest itself in different ways across many cultures and civilizations in the ancient past? Why are there so many varieties of religion (of the pre-historical persuasion)? Where is the commonality? If a “higher being” is omnipresent and omnipotent, why is there ambiguity, disarray and religious fragmentation and doctrinal termination found within both the archaeological and historical record?
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It’s a human construct that serves specific (either conscious or not) social, political, spiritual, psychological and philosophical, needs of certain cultures/civilizations/individuals and is largely dependent upon the general temporal makeup of its contemporary era. In short humans develop it, manipulate it, use it, exploit it, foster it and revere it till the time ultimately arrives to end it.
I'll go for the latter one.
Mustang1 @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:46 am
lily lily:
$1:
Where is the commonality? If a “higher being” is omnipresent and omnipotent, why is there ambiguity, disarray and religious fragmentation and doctrinal termination found within both the archaeological and historical record?
Perhaps because man did all the recording, and man isn't infallible.
Then wouldn’t that suggest theological doctrines are fallible too?
