Half of European men share King Tut's DNA
andyt @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:14 am
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/half-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-180459757.html
The results showed that King Tut belonged to a genetic profile group, known as haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50 percent of all men in Western Europe belong, indicating that they share a common ancestor.
Among modern-day Egyptians this haplogroup contingent is below 1 percent, according to iGENEA.
BartSimpson @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:23 am
Old King Tut sure got around. 
andyt @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:29 am
Brenda @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:33 am
Migration is nothing new.
andyt @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:35 am
Sure. But I thought modern Europeans were descended from Indo Aryans (Hence Hitler's schtick). I didn't think they stopped off in Egypt first.
Brenda @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:38 am
andyt andyt:
Sure. But I thought modern Europeans were descended from Indo Aryans (Hence Hitler's schtick). I didn't think they stopped off in Egypt first.
Europeans are (from) everywhere. 3000 years ago, 7500 years ago...
andyt @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:44 am
The Indo-European groups of Europe (the Centum groups plus Balto-Slavic and Albanian) are assumed to have developed in situ by admixture of early Indo-European groups arriving in Europe by the Bronze Age (Corded ware, Beaker people).
Scape @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:45 am
ShepherdsDog @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:49 am
we're Indo Europeans...the eastern branch/subgroup(Iranians, afghanis and northern Indians) of our linguistic family are indo aryans.
fifeboy @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:05 am
I beg your pardon, King T. has MY DNA. 
fifeboy @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:06 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
we're Indo Europeans...the eastern branch/subgroup(Iranians, afghanis and northern Indians) of our linguistic family are indo aryans.
Poor Adolf just got it wrong. All of it!
BeaverFever @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:33 am
Well the article doesn't really say Europeans are descended from Tut or vice-versa. It says Tut and Europeans share a genetic marker that originated in the Caucasus (where the supposed "Aryans" came from). So Tut and whitey have a common ancestor somewhere in the Iran/Georgia area.
What's new is that it was generally thought that Aryans migrated through Europe and northern Eurasia only, and not back to Africa.
Egypt was invaded and briefly ruled by a people believed to be from that area known as the Hyksos; I suppose its possible that Tuts ancestors interbred with them.
andyt @ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:38 am
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Well the article doesn't really say Europeans are descended from Tut or vice-versa. It says Tut and Europeans share a genetic marker that originated in the Caucasus (where the supposed "Aryans" came from). So Tut and whitey have a common ancestor somewhere in the Iran/Georgia area.
What's new is that it was generally thought that Aryans migrated through Europe and northern Eurasia only, and not back to Africa.
Egypt was invaded and briefly ruled by a people believed to be from that area known as the Hyksos; I suppose its possible that Tuts ancestors interbred with them.
What's new is that it was generally thought that Aryans migrated through Europe and northern Eurasia only, and not back to Africa.
Egypt was invaded and briefly ruled by a people believed to be from that area known as the Hyksos; I suppose its possible that Tuts ancestors interbred with them.
I missed that last part, thanks for pointing it out.
Batsy @ Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:26 am
All Europeans - including, of course, me - are direct descendants of Charlemagne, who was King of the Franks from 768 and Emperor of the Romans (Imperator Romanorum) from 800 to his death in 814.
In other words, Charlemagne is my great-great-great-great-great-great (and however many more greats) grandfather.
In fact, Europeans are direct descendants of EVERYBODY (everybody who had children) who lived at the same time as Charlemagne. 
Batsy @ Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:27 am
andyt andyt:
Sure. But I thought modern Europeans were descended from Indo Aryans (Hence Hitler's schtick). I didn't think they stopped off in Egypt first.
All humans' ancestors are from Africa. Humans came from that continent.