Canada Kicks Ass
hard drugs are ten minutes away for Vancouver's young users

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andyt @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:16 am

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VANCOUVER - A study called "surprising" by one of its lead researchers has found hard drugs are just ten minutes away for Vancouver's young users.
The study conducted by the B.C. Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS found that despite decades of efforts to combat drugs, heroin, crack, cocaine, crystal meth and marijuana can be obtained within minutes, particularly by young drug users.
Dr. Evan Wood, an internal medicine physician and senior author of the study, noted the U.S. declared the war on drugs 40 years ago, but that hasn't helped at-risk youth avoid falling into drug use.
"Their reality in terms of the free and easy availability of drugs is, I think, discordant from your average Canadian's understanding of just how . . . available drugs are on the streets of Canadian cities," said Wood.
The study, to be released today, surveyed two groups of people in 2007; one between 14 and 26 years of age who had used an illicit drug other or in addition to marijuana at least 30 days before joining the study.
The other consisted of adult drug users over 16 years old who injected drugs at least a month before the survey.
Both studies asked "How difficult would it be for you to get drugs right now in the area you typically obtain your drugs?"
They then focused on those who answered they could get drugs in ten minutes and found the small time frame wasn't just for marijuana, but for hard drugs as well.
"That's, I think, the most surprising thing," said Wood.
"I'm in the office right now. It would probably take me more than ten minutes to go and be able to buy a bottle of wine."
Vancouver police spokesman Const. Lindsey Houghton wasn't shocked.
"I don’t think it is a surprise to anyone that if someone is motivated enough and has the knowledge on how to obtain illegal drugs, they could probably do it fairly quickly," wrote Houghton in an email.
"I’m sure if the study was done 5, 10, or 15 years ago the numbers wouldn’t have been much different."
Houghton hasn't seen the study yet, but has worked with at-risk youth in the past and said what is important is access to medical care should users have a problem and access to services to help end their addictions.
Wood said the easy access means current drug policies are not succeeding in stopping the availability and use of illegal drugs and Houghton's comments show police know this.
"While the police are aware, I think your average Canadian is totally unaware of the fact that our streets are so awash in drugs," said Wood, stressing he doesn't want to sugest he's negative about police efforts.
"If supply reduction is the foundation of Canada's drug strategy, we really need to have an impact assessment and evaluation of what we're actually getting from that investment."
He said money spent on prisons and trying to cut the supply of drugs would be more wisely spent on rehabilitation programs and community outreach efforts.
Wood said legalization and regulation would also cut down on incidents where impure products injure users and compared use to that of people going blind drinking homemade booze during alcohol prohibition.
"As an internal medicine physician who not that infrequently sees people who have had a brain injury due to a non-fatal overdose or having to give HIV positive test results to young people, I would love to see a drug-free world," said Wood.
"I'm just coming at this as a scientist and someone who wants to advocate for appropriate use of tax dollars and the general public being made more aware of alternative effective strategies that could better improve health and safety."
Walter McKay is a former Vancouver police officer who now is a policing consultant. He agrees with Wood that the current drug prohibition model isn't working.
"Our most secure prisons, where you have armed guards, you control the environment entirely — drugs still get inside it," said McKay.
"If we can't even control that and we have absolute control over these prisons, then how can we expect the greater policies of more policing, more man power, more money to keep drugs out of the country or off the street?"
McKay said, due to the profits of drug dealing, no matter how many drug dealers are taken off the streets there will always be another one ready to fill the gap in the market.


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2Cdo @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:23 am

So let's just make heroin, crack and meth legal. :roll:

   



Regina @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:27 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
So let's just make heroin, crack and meth legal. :roll:

I agree. Let's just throw in the towel. :roll:

   



Curtman @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:38 am

Absolutely throw in the towel on the failure that is the war on drugs. Every year the black market grows, and the gangsters make more money pushing drugs to kids.

Regulate it instead and maybe we can actually do something to help people instead

   



2Cdo @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:39 am

Curtman Curtman:
Absolutely throw in the towel on the failure that is the war on drugs. Every year the black market grows, and the gangsters make more money pushing drugs to kids.

Regulate it instead and maybe we can actually do something to help people instead


So it's not just weed you want legal, but every illicit drug out there. Very telling. :roll:

   



Thanos @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:24 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
So it's not just weed you want legal, but every illicit drug out there. Very telling. :roll:


I pointed this out before because I'm quite familiar with the reality among legalization advocates that every conversation about legalization of pot eventually leads to the proposal to legalize all the other ones. Yet for pointing this out I got compared to Glenn Beck by some.

Ah well, my comfort lies in being right about this, as usual. Yay, Thanos! [cheer]

   



2Cdo @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:26 am

Thanos Thanos:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
So it's not just weed you want legal, but every illicit drug out there. Very telling. :roll:


I pointed this out before because I'm quite familiar with the reality among legalization advocates that every conversation about legalization of pot eventually leads to the proposal to legalize all the other ones. Yet for pointing this out I got compared to Glenn Beck by some.

Ah well, my comfort lies in being right about this, as usual. Yay, Thanos! [cheer]


You aren't Glenn? :lol:

   



Thanos @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:48 am

I'd much prefer a Jeff Beck comparison but that's most likely not going to happen considering that, unlike Jeff, I weigh more than 100 lbs and have no discernable talent with a guitar. :|

   



Brenda @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:57 am

Oh cool!
"Hi store owner! Get I get a 100 grams of heroine, 50 grams of meth and an ounce of crack? Btw, why is that guy at the pharmacy drinking methadone, supervised?"

   



Curtman @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:15 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
Curtman Curtman:
Absolutely throw in the towel on the failure that is the war on drugs. Every year the black market grows, and the gangsters make more money pushing drugs to kids.

Regulate it instead and maybe we can actually do something to help people instead


So it's not just weed you want legal, but every illicit drug out there. Very telling. :roll:


Why would anyone support policy that has proven to fail? It failed for alcohol, marijuana, and all the rest. Wouldn't it be hypocritical to support eliminating 3/4 of the drug trade and support the failure for the other quarter?

They're all health issues, not criminal.

   



RUEZ @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:17 am

I say legalize it and tax it out the ass. We've seen how well that works for cigarettes.... oh wait that just created a different crime.

   



martin14 @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:21 am

2Cdo 2Cdo:
Curtman Curtman:
Absolutely throw in the towel on the failure that is the war on drugs. Every year the black market grows, and the gangsters make more money pushing drugs to kids.

Regulate it instead and maybe we can actually do something to help people instead


So it's not just weed you want legal, but every illicit drug out there. Very telling. :roll:



At least the whackjob's real agenda is finally showing..

   



andyt @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:22 am

Brenda Brenda:
Oh cool!
"Hi store owner! Get I get a 100 grams of heroine, 50 grams of meth and an ounce of crack? Btw, why is that guy at the pharmacy drinking methadone, supervised?"
Is that how you would regulate the drugs? Certainly not what anybody else is proposing.

   



andyt @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:22 am

RUEZ RUEZ:
I say legalize it and tax it out the ass. We've seen how well that works for cigarettes.... oh wait that just created a different crime.


So you're saying we should ban cigs?

   



RUEZ @ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:37 am

andyt andyt:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I say legalize it and tax it out the ass. We've seen how well that works for cigarettes.... oh wait that just created a different crime.


So you're saying we should ban cigs?

Yup that's exactly what I wrote genius. I'm glad you get it.

   



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