Legalize pot, say former B.C. attorneys general
andyt @ Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:16 am
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Four former B.C. attorneys general are joining a coalition of health and justice experts calling for the legalization of marijuana.
Colin Gabelmann, Ujjal Dosanjh, Graeme Bowbrick and Geoff Plant have all signed a letter to B.C. Premier Christy Clark and B.C. NDP Leader Adrian Dix, calling on the politicians to endorse legalizing, taxing and regulating marijuana.
The former attorneys general say the move would help reduce gang violence associated with the illegal marijuana trade, raise tax revenues and ease the burden on the province's court system.
"As former B.C. attorneys general, we are fully aware that British Columbia lost its war against the marijuana industry many years ago," the letter reads.
"The case demonstrating the failure and harms of marijuana prohibition is airtight. The evidence? Massive profits for organized crime, widespread gang violence, easy access to illegal cannabis for our youth, reduced community safety, and significant — and escalating — costs to taxpayers."
The letter goes on to say that as attorneys general, the four men were responsible for overseeing the province's justice system and are well aware of the "burden" imposed on the court system by the enforcement of marijuana prohibition.
"We are therefore dismayed that the B.C. government supports the federal government’s move to impose mandatory minimum sentences for minor cannabis offences," says the letter. "These misguided prosecutions will further strain an already clogged system, without reducing cannabis prohibition-related violence or rates of cannabis use."
The letter goes on to compare today's marijuana laws to alcohol prohibition in the United States in the 1920s.
"It is time B.C. politicians listened to the vast majority of B.C. voters who support replacing cannabis prohibition in favour of a strictly regulated legal market for adult marijuana use," the letter reads.
Premier Christy Clark responded to the letter Tuesday, saying the decision isn't hers to make.
"I am going to leave the marijuana debate to the federal government," she said. "It's in their sole sphere of responsibility, so as a premier I respect that former attorneys general have taken this stand, people who are outside of politics, but as a premier I'm going to leave this to the federal government."
In an interview with CBC News, Plant acknowledged B.C. politicians can't change federal law, but said this is about adding to the chorus of voices calling for the legalization of marijuana.
"I think the goal here is to add momentum to what is an increasingly public groundswell of a demand that governments recognize that the so-called war on drugs, the marijuana prohibition — it's not reducing the incidences of the use of marijuana," he said.
"Instead, it's feeding this huge and growing organized crime network that's causing people to get shot in the streets."
Plant said the aim is to get public policy in line with reality.
"There's evidence that indicates as many as 400,000 British Columbians that are regular consumers of marijuana. When they are possessing it, they're breaking the law and yet it seems that that's tolerated," he said.
"We like to think that in Canada we live in a society governed by the rule of law, but if one in 10 British Columbians exist outside that … it's almost kind of a joke to think that we truly believe in the rule of law when we are willing to tolerate behaviour that is, on the face of it, unlawful."
The former attorneys general join four former Vancouver mayors and the Health Officers Council of B.C. in their endorsement of Stop the Violence BC’s call to legally regulate the sale of marijuana under a public health framework.
Stop the Violence BC is a coalition of law enforcement officials, legal experts, public health officials and academic experts from the University of British Columbia, Simon Fraser University, University of Victoria and the University of Northern B.C.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/legalize-pot-f ... 43822.html
Gunnair @ Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:22 am
Agreed.
When they had the chance to do something, they did nothing.
Now they sit outside and bark.
andyt @ Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:08 pm
martin14 martin14:
When they had the chance to do something, they did nothing.
Now they sit outside and bark.
When they were in politics they had to feed the electorate's ignorance to stay in power. Now they're free to speak the truth.
Curtman @ Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:33 pm
Former Attorneys General Call on BC Leaders to End Cannabis Prohibition
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“It’s time for our political leaders to accept and act on the overwhelming evidence linking marijuana prohibition to organized crime and gang violence,” said Geoff Plant, who served as attorney general from 2001 to 2005. “Punitive laws such as mandatory minimum sentences are clearly not the solution. Instead, taxation and regulation under a public health framework is the best way forward.”
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To provincial and federal politicians who do not support taxation and regulation of marijuana, the former AGs asked that they outline their plan to:
* Reduce gang violence related to the illegal marijuana trade
* Ensure the judicial system works effectively in the face of escalating convictions
* Pay for increased prison and court system costs while the BC government runs deficits
* Prevent criminal enterprises from targeting BC’s youth for cannabis sales
“Laws that more aggressively enforce prohibition are obviously not the solution,” said Graeme Bowbrick, attorney general from 2000 to 2001. “It’s time for our politicians to listen to their constituents and reconsider our failed approach to cannabis policy.”
http://stoptheviolencebc.org/about-us/$1:
Using regulatory tools proven effective at reducing tobacco use will undercut the huge profits cannabis driving violent organized crime in BC. Not only that, cannabis regulation may also improve community health by making cannabis harder for young people to access, lessening cannabis grow-op associated property damage, and freeing up law enforcement resources to focus on criminal activity where law enforcement can reduce harm.
I guess calling them four former attorney's generals sounds better than calling them three NDP and a Liberal has beens.
But with that aside, they're entitled to their "opinion" just like the rest of us and for what it's worth it's got no more validity than the rest of us since this whole issue is a Federal matter as it was so succinctly pointed out by our current Fearless Leader, Christy Cluck.
When they can convince the Federal Government to legalise it then they'll have accomplished something. But as it stands now given their records as AG's for the Province of BC it's just political pandering against the Conservative Government.
And for the record i'd listen to Mark Emery about how to and the ramifications of legalizing pot long before I'd listen to these four politically biased hacks.
herbie @ Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:03 pm
Actually they're opinions are worth about 1,000,000 times what ours are because we're NOT former AGs.
Unless you're prepared to day my opinion on medicine is as important as a doctor's.
Come one, I have got grandchildren and it's still a criminal offence. It takes a week to make a law and over 50 years to correct a bad one. Hell the Tories don't even realize it's a bad law yet, that's where the politics come in. The Libs had decades and didin't do anything either.
martin14 martin14:
When they had the chance to do something, they did nothing.
Now they sit outside and bark.
I totally agree. This would have had way more impact if these guys had the gonads to say this while they were in office.
Typical sales-guys. No gonads.
Thanos @ Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:22 am
And the hallucinogenic-inspired journey into fantasyland continues on it's merry way. You know what would also be really cool? Mixing chocolate and peanut butter together! 
Support.
herbie herbie:
Actually they're opinions are worth about 1,000,000 times what ours are because we're NOT former AGs.
Unless you're prepared to day my opinion on medicine is as important as a doctor's.
Come one, I have got grandchildren and it's still a criminal offence. It takes a week to make a law and over 50 years to correct a bad one. Hell the Tories don't even realize it's a bad law yet, that's where the politics come in. The Libs had decades and didin't do anything either.
I didn't say it should be illegal, what I said was these four people had ample opportunity to do something even if it was only start a dialogue when they were in power but, since they chose not to, they now have no more right to claim the moral highground than anyone else on either side of the debate and as matter of fact their former postion should actually be counted against them since it makes them appear to be unadulterated hypocrites.
Because of past actions or lack thereof, a sudden change in opinions like theirs makes it hard to believe that it's a genuine sentiment and not just more political pandering, which I suspect to be more of the truth than their concern about legalizing Marijuana.
It's all moot anyway. All the arguments mean dick until the US gets its head out of its ass in regards to pot.
Until that day, the best we can hope for is a re-decrimming of it for simple possession, AND more importantly to decrim the cultivation of enough for personal supplies.
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
It's all moot anyway. All the arguments mean dick until the US gets its head out of its ass in regards to pot.
Until that day, the best we can hope for is a re-decrimming of it for simple possession, AND more importantly to decrim the cultivation of enough for personal supplies.
Exactly. As long as there's a huge market for our pot down south gangs are still gonna be illegally growing and shipping it.
All legalizing it up here will do is take away the criminal aspect from our own users. Although,I can see all the dope smokers freaking out when they discover that you can still go to jail for growing since the only place you'll legally be able to get the stuff is from government run dispenseries.
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Although,I can see all the dope smokers freaking out when they discover that you can still go to jail for growing since the only place you'll legally be able to get the stuff is from government run dispenseries.

One step at a time. As long as I can buy it, and the gov't keeps the prices reasonable, and believe me, they can tax the shit right out of it and it'd still be reasonable compared to current street prices, I'll be satisfied until I have the same right to grow some as anybody else that makes their own beer or wine.
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martin14 martin14:
When they had the chance to do something, they did nothing.
Now they sit outside and bark.
I totally agree. This would have had way more impact if these guys had the gonads to say this while they were in office.
Typical sales-guys. No gonads.
Some of them have been saying it for years and years. It helps to have a group like Stop The Violence to get the message out.
Ujjal Dosanjh was health minister during the Paul Martin government while they tried to pass the decriminalization bill.
Maybe you weren't paying attention to their gonads until recently.