Myths and Strereotypes
SwampoO @ Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:30 pm
I got bit really bad by a shitsu when I was young, and I seem to remember growing up hearing about small dogs biteing, and not getting put down. I saw put down those stupid shitsu's
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:16 pm
Robair Robair:
Ah, shelter dog. I get it.
And that's cool. I used to work with a guy that had a very friendly pit. Doesn't change the fact that 1/3 of all fatal dog attacks are pits.
An example of Bull determination:
Yikes. That poor dog... I'm sure the porcupine has had better days too.
I have no problem with Onatrios Pit ban. You can say punish the bad owners, not the breed all you want. Meanwhile, someone else is hurt or killed by a Pit.
Maybe they should be like exotic pets or something. You can own one, but you have to aquire all kinds of permits and your home should have to meet certain standards.
I don't know, but if you don't like the ban, what is your solution?
And that's cool. I used to work with a guy that had a very friendly pit. Doesn't change the fact that 1/3 of all fatal dog attacks are pits.
An example of Bull determination:
Yikes. That poor dog... I'm sure the porcupine has had better days too.
I have no problem with Onatrios Pit ban. You can say punish the bad owners, not the breed all you want. Meanwhile, someone else is hurt or killed by a Pit.
Maybe they should be like exotic pets or something. You can own one, but you have to aquire all kinds of permits and your home should have to meet certain standards.
I don't know, but if you don't like the ban, what is your solution?
Holy sh......
Matsu @ Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:27 pm
$1:
"You're going to kill my dog because I don't have a piece of paper???"
No, we are going to put down your dog because you don't have legal permission to own it
If a person isn't willing to make the effort to obtain a special license to have a restricted breed of dog, (ie pit bull) then too bad. They can get a Shi Tzu or a poodle or a German Shepard or a Lab or a mutt . . .
Matsu @ Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:36 pm
Wasn't there something a while ago from PETA, that stated that most dog bites/attacks happen when the dogs are kept chained up or in small areas?
I grew up in the country where farm dogs ran loose. I don't remember anyone getting bit.
apbtwizard @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:01 am
I agreee with all of you that are saying that if your going to own this breed then you should have a license, It's just like owning a car or should be anyways at least it will keep the responsible owners right and the other not then you can point out who is good and not, That's what I think anyways.
I also think that if you know your dog is dangerous (any breed) Muzzel your damn dog before u take it for a walk or in public, most dog bites you here on the news as well, aren't even all pit bulls, they just throw the name out because it sells, and then you hear oh it's was a lab cross,It's stupid ant not fair to us responsible owners. The law now asks that your dog be neuterd/spayed Muzzeled and leashed in public, Our male is Neuterd because he came to from the O.S.P.C.A in Newmarket, and our female is not spayed and won't be due to she is a show dog and as long as you show her at least once a year and have prove of showing her, then you do not need to have them spayed/neuterd, same as if you had your dog in wiehgt pull.
apbtwizard @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:20 am
Here are some pictures of what happens to my breed just because there not liked because of how other people treat them.
apbtwizard @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:27 am
Here is the other picture of the second dog it's just a side shot she was cut with a box knife.
Matsu @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:25 pm
Who was it that said "The more I get to know people, the better I like my dog"?
No animal deserves to be treated that way.
apbtwizard @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:05 pm
Robair Robair:
apbtwizard apbtwizard:
do some research before you start putting down a breed,
Like was posted on the first page, from 1979 to 1998. 1/3 of all fatal dog attacks were Pit Bulls. One third. That is a fact, a cold, hard, number.You said Labs are the most likely to bite. I believe you. The only dog that has ever bitten me was a chocolate Lab. It bit me, I smaked it on the head and yelled at it, and it ran away tail between it's legs. I had a little tear in my forearm. If that was a Pit, and my response was to smack it on the head and yell? It would rip my fucking head off. Do you disagree?
They could be one of the least likely breeds to attack. But on the rare occasion they do attack, they don't quit until you are dead. That is a Pit, determined as hell. The reason you don't hear about other dogs that take a snap at someone is because usually it results in a few stitches at the most.
What I really want to know is where you got this info from? In actual fact Pitbulls came in third in bits ya thats right third from the bottom , labs are number 1 bit the most ...... the reason people are so freaked out about pitbulls is the media , Bullshit sells papers and ad space. Also in actual fact pitbulls accounted for .03 per cent of all dog attacts in Ontario last year.
Lab bits child 6 in face child requirs sixteen stiches , does this make front page or even the paper ....NO it didn't ...why? cause it doesn't sell papers. This happened ...any guess? yup Kitchener ..... so learn your facts and get true facts before you reply cause we don't need anymore bullshit on our dogs or any other breed at that fact.
Blue_Nose @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:09 pm
Bite frequency is also an irrelevant argument (the other being the "you're more likely to get a paper cut" argument). Applicable stats would be bite frequency per dog... The most likely reason for Labs biting most often is because there are a hell of a lot more labs than pitbulls.
Jaime_Souviens @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:16 pm
2nd factor, damage caused.
A bite that doesn't go through your pants leg from a two and a half pound dog, and a gaping gash requiring reconstructive surgery and transfusions are two different things.
Tricks @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:17 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Bite frequency is also an irrelevant argument (the other being the "you're more likely to get a paper cut" argument). Applicable stats would be bite frequency per dog... The most likely reason for Labs biting most often is because there are a hell of a lot more labs than pitbulls.
thats a good point. Instead of taking it out on the dogs, make the punishment rediculous. It will drive people away from treating their dogs like shit.
I don't think we should punish a dog for a natural instinct, why not make it mandatory that ALL dogs get trained to a ccertain degree. If it isnt, your dog is taken away. Some times the media doesnt cover the whole story as well. Remember in the movie Beethoven? When the guy smacked the dog, and the dog attacked him. The media does not report on this, because most of the time the people wont admit to it.
How about the story about the pit saving a kid from another dog?
ziggy @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:17 pm
How many people here have been attacked by a dog of any breed?
2 for me,we should do a poll.
Blue_Nose @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:19 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
2nd factor, damage caused.
A bite that doesn't go through your pants leg from a two and a half pound dog, and a gaping gash requiring reconstructive surgery and transfusions are two different things.
A bite that doesn't go through your pants leg from a two and a half pound dog, and a gaping gash requiring reconstructive surgery and transfusions are two different things.
Ah yes... this was from one of her other pitbull threads, though the references might not make as much sense in this one
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Risk has two key factors: probability and severity.
In the case of "baseball and spiders", you have a high probability (millions of people are exposed to both all the time), and a very low severity (bruises, maybe a trip to the hospital at most). = low/moderate risk.
Same thing with your trained attack poodles: very low probability, and relatively low severity. = low risk
However, pitbull attacks have a moderate probability, and a very high severity. = high risk.
If the studies set out to prove that pitbulls aren't dangerous, or are improperly cited, you're basically lying with science as a pretext.
In the case of "baseball and spiders", you have a high probability (millions of people are exposed to both all the time), and a very low severity (bruises, maybe a trip to the hospital at most). = low/moderate risk.
Same thing with your trained attack poodles: very low probability, and relatively low severity. = low risk
However, pitbull attacks have a moderate probability, and a very high severity. = high risk.
If the studies set out to prove that pitbulls aren't dangerous, or are improperly cited, you're basically lying with science as a pretext.
Jaime_Souviens @ Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:20 pm
ziggy ziggy:
How many people here have been attacked by a dog of any breed?
2 for me,we should do a poll.
2 for me,we should do a poll.
Attacked or bit?
Me? Bit once, by a husky, I was on a bicycle, didn't even know there was a dog there.