Urdu: The language of Army Camp
Strutz @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:21 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
desertdude desertdude:
Reason I "left" this place was sorta what Doc said, you log in and the first 10-20 new threads are Islam this Islam that and pretty much nothing else and this carried on for a quite a while, if I wanted to read shit like that. I'd get a subscription to The Daily Fail. By the time Thanos introduced the Omni thread ( And thank you Thanos for that, makes navigating this place much easier now), I had lost interest in this place.
Also a lot of good members also wandered off into the distance and place just before boring, too polarized. Left, right, lib, conservative, rep, dem and still is. If your not really into N.American politics or some sort of bigotry this place has little else to offer to the outsider.
This place was fun, with some great contributing members even if you didn't agree with them, but they still had a interesting POV or story to tell, had some real good times and genuine laughs and there was almost something interesting being posted and discussed all the time.
Now its just fuck all, Trumps a GOD, no hes not, Hilary is a bitch, yes she is, so? All Muslims should be nuked, Justin is an asshole, NO he's not. That basically sums up the entire forum now. As I said nothing left for the person who has no or little interest in these few subjects.
As for the OP, you are not going to debate or convey your point to the the don't bother me with facts my mind is already made up camp. So thats just a waste of time and energy. You spend 10 pages in a thread going back and forth on one subject then the very next thread is started by the same poster, posting the exact same garbage you spent 10 pages debunking!
Also a lot of good members also wandered off into the distance and place just before boring, too polarized. Left, right, lib, conservative, rep, dem and still is. If your not really into N.American politics or some sort of bigotry this place has little else to offer to the outsider.
This place was fun, with some great contributing members even if you didn't agree with them, but they still had a interesting POV or story to tell, had some real good times and genuine laughs and there was almost something interesting being posted and discussed all the time.
Now its just fuck all, Trumps a GOD, no hes not, Hilary is a bitch, yes she is, so? All Muslims should be nuked, Justin is an asshole, NO he's not. That basically sums up the entire forum now. As I said nothing left for the person who has no or little interest in these few subjects.
As for the OP, you are not going to debate or convey your point to the the don't bother me with facts my mind is already made up camp. So thats just a waste of time and energy. You spend 10 pages in a thread going back and forth on one subject then the very next thread is started by the same poster, posting the exact same garbage you spent 10 pages debunking!
I agree with everything you say, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
I just haven't given up yet. I am not beaten!
Well stated DD. It's for the same reasons I log in and contribute less frequently lately.
CDN_PATRIOT @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:06 pm
Militants Militants:
I maybe know Catholic Christian wants too punish white people across world this is nothing right. They want muslims and terrorism too punish us. Catholic Christian have big wrong.
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Any ideas?
-J.
desertdude @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:25 pm
Militants Militants:
I maybe know Catholic Christian wants too punish white people across world this is nothing right. They want muslims and terrorism too punish us. Catholic Christian have big wrong.
You sure you are from Sweden and Swedish, because you speak the worst English I've ever heard from a Swede. Terrible in fact, from country which is considered the best non-native English speaking country.
Can hardly make out what you are on about?
martin14 @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:30 pm
I doubt he is actually Swedish.
Hyack @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:40 pm
martin14 martin14:
I doubt he is actually Swedish.
The IP for his last post is....
person: Anders Wahlberg
address: Olofstrom Kabel TV
address: Box 303
address: SE-29324 Olofstrom
address: Sweden
CDN_PATRIOT @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:04 pm
martin14 martin14:
I doubt he is actually Swedish.
IKEA wifi
-J.
Fighter @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:57 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The difference between fundamentalist Islam and fundamentalist everything else right now is that the common denominator of most terrorism in the world right now is fundamentalist Islam.
And while Islamic terrorism by fundamentalists is the scourge of the Western world what's lost on more than a few people is that these same mutts are killing about sixty Muslims for every non-Muslim they kill.
The other difference is that the fundamentalist Muslims make a compelling case to their supporters that the Koran, the Hadith, the Tawrat, the Zabur, and the Injeel all combine to support the cause of jihad against unbelievers and in particular against Jews and Christians.
They've been very successful with their appeals to the Ummah because much of what they say is indeed supported by the words of the Prophet. They're also successful because they preach adherence to Islam when so many Muslims live in countries beset by horrible corruption, scientific and cultural ignorance, and the often bloody violence that routinely takes place between families, clans, and tribes.
Fundamentalist Islam offers people without hope the promise of a Holy and pure Caliphate and that can have a very powerful appeal to people who see the fruits of their labors routinely stolen by corrupt, thieving, and powerful governments that, like the government of Syria, are often run by one tribe at the expense of all of the other tribes or clans under their authority.
And while Islamic terrorism by fundamentalists is the scourge of the Western world what's lost on more than a few people is that these same mutts are killing about sixty Muslims for every non-Muslim they kill.
The other difference is that the fundamentalist Muslims make a compelling case to their supporters that the Koran, the Hadith, the Tawrat, the Zabur, and the Injeel all combine to support the cause of jihad against unbelievers and in particular against Jews and Christians.
They've been very successful with their appeals to the Ummah because much of what they say is indeed supported by the words of the Prophet. They're also successful because they preach adherence to Islam when so many Muslims live in countries beset by horrible corruption, scientific and cultural ignorance, and the often bloody violence that routinely takes place between families, clans, and tribes.
Fundamentalist Islam offers people without hope the promise of a Holy and pure Caliphate and that can have a very powerful appeal to people who see the fruits of their labors routinely stolen by corrupt, thieving, and powerful governments that, like the government of Syria, are often run by one tribe at the expense of all of the other tribes or clans under their authority.
Islam is what it is...People can be fundamental but Islam can't be characterized, I think.
If fundamentalist Muslims are trying to brainwash people using Islam...then we need to stop them while at same time question arises who brainwashed "fundamental Muslims"......some local imams? or some other government? or US?
People are using religion to justify killings of innocents and we are calling religion bad? why do we not put blame on people only? why bring religion into it? Who gives anyone right to label or characterize other's religion as oppressive or fundamental?
Going by same logic, spoon shouldn't be used for eating because it makes people fat or guns should be abolished in US/everywhere because it kills people..??? I hope you're getting my point.
Well, I don't see apart from few ME countries, there is bloodshed going on among different communities regarding religion Islam...It is also arguable whether ME is on boil due to religion...Because geopolitics and interests are what driving events in ME.
This caliphate making is largely hoax to make people or westerners afraid of Islam...Which Muslim country has caliphate system? Even Saudis recently allowed movies/women driving.
Yes, chances of radicalization do exist but this all phenomena largely started when someone decided to opt for Operation Cyclone Google it...A perfect example of using religion to advance one's interests.
Religion, especially Islam was being used by powers back then and still is being used...So, this all is cover up...
pursue interests under cover of Islam and then blame Islam/Muslims for radicalization
The only difference I see is that Muslim fundamentals are without system/government while Jews/Hindus/Christians extremists are and can sitting in government offices, making controversial decisions and paving the way for "radicalization"
People have not forgotten Jerusalem decision and we know why that decision was taken...We also have not forgotten what G.W. Bush said after attacking Iraq...To Muslims, he was radical and fundamental Christian who was even more dangerous as he was allowed to govern US and hold power to make decisions which gonna impact/destabilize the world...He said: the crusade has begun...He also said God asked me to invade Iraq.
Hindu fundamentalist Modi has become prime minister of India...the same person who was banned by west decade ago because of his involvement in Gujarat massacre where Muslims were killed systematically right under his nose with his blessings.
While Israeli government...and what they are doing...everyone knows that.
Fighter @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:23 pm
desertdude desertdude:
No body is replacing me! And that's final!!!
The new guy can fuck right off !
Reason I "left" this place was sorta what Doc said, you log in and the first 10-20 new threads are Islam this Islam that and pretty much nothing else and this carried on for a quite a while, if I wanted to read shit like that. I'd get a subscription to The Daily Fail. By the time Thanos introduced the Omni thread ( And thank you Thanos for that, makes navigating this place much easier now), I had lost interest in this place.
Also a lot of good members also wandered off into the distance and place just before boring, too polarized. Left, right, lib, conservative, rep, dem and still is. If your not really into N.American politics or some sort of bigotry this place has little else to offer to the outsider.
This place was fun, with some great contributing members even if you didn't agree with them, but they still had a interesting POV or story to tell, had some real good times and genuine laughs and there was almost something interesting being posted and discussed all the time.
Now its just fuck all, Trumps a GOD, no hes not, Hilary is a bitch, yes she is, so? All Muslims should be nuked, Justin is an asshole, NO he's not. That basically sums up the entire forum now. As I said nothing left for the person who has no or little interest in these few subjects.
As for the OP, you are not going to debate or convey your point to the the don't bother me with facts my mind is already made up camp. So thats just a waste of time and energy. You spend 10 pages in a thread going back and forth on one subject then the very next thread is started by the same poster, posting the exact same garbage you spent 10 pages debunking!
P.S : New Guy, don't be fuckin' sending me any PMs you hear.
P.P.S : Can't wait to see after the honeymoon is over, the regulars shit on the new guy and he losing his marbles, gonna be fun. Cause you bitches are nasty and not everyone can deal with you like I can. You know who you are!
Welcome and thank you for such great post
N_Fiddledog @ Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 pm
In the West the general push is toward this:
$1:
Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institution and religious dignitaries (the attainment of such is termed secularity). One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people.[Notes 1] Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by religious beliefs or practices.[1][Notes 2]
Islam pushes this:
$1:
The word Shariah means "the path to a watering hole." It denotes an Islamic way of life, not just a system of criminal justice.
It is a code of living that most Muslims adopt as part of their faith.
Some countries formally institute it as the law of the land, enforced by the courts. However, the way Shariah law is applied from country to country can vary widely.
It is a code of living that most Muslims adopt as part of their faith.
Some countries formally institute it as the law of the land, enforced by the courts. However, the way Shariah law is applied from country to country can vary widely.
N_Fiddledog @ Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:28 am
I have a few problems with your examples. Fighter. Starting with this one:
Fighter Fighter:
People have not forgotten Jerusalem decision and we know why that decision was taken...
Which people? What Jerusalem decision? I'd like to know which and what before conceding anybody knows why.
$1:
We also have not forgotten what G.W. Bush said after attacking Iraq...To Muslims, he was radical and fundamental Christian who was even more dangerous as he was allowed to govern US and hold power to make decisions which gonna impact/destabilize the world...He said: the crusade has begun...
Apparently, you have forgotten a few details.
Actually what he said was "This crusade...this...war on terrorism is going to take awhile and the American people need to be patient."
It had nothing to do with Iraq. He said it the week following 9/11 after a strategy meeting at Camp David. I'm not sure I get your point. What is it you think that proves? That he planned to move against the terrorists who flew planes into American buildings and any state protecting them? Sure he did. So what?
$1:
He also said God asked me to invade Iraq.
Did he? I know a Palestinian Minister said he did, but do you have anything better than this:
"One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
Because to the western ear that sounds silly.
$1:
Hindu fundamentalist Modi has become prime minister of India...the same person who was banned by west decade ago because of his involvement in Gujarat massacre where Muslims were killed systematically right under his nose with his blessings.
Myself and most westerners don't know too much about all that, so I looked it up.
On Modi and to what extent Hinduism affects his government:
In the last 36 months, Modi has consolidated power within the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and expanded his party’s reach with a string of successful state elections, while simultaneously devolving powers to India’s state governments. He is trying to replicate elements of his successful model of governance from his 12-year run as the chief minister of Gujarat — primarily by empowering key bureaucrats over political bosses in many ministries. He has avoided personally taking any decisions on the national level that would provoke fears of a Hindu nationalist agenda, while allowing junior regional party leaders to initiate such actions. His appetite for big policy steps is increasing, as evidenced by the November 2016 “demonetization” initiative. He has achieved notable reforms such as ending India’s “five year plans,” and initiated the creation of a stronger national market through the Goods and Services Tax, but also seen reforms of land and labor laws stymied in Parliament. And Modi has re-shaped India’s international relations, adopting a more “realpolitik” approach than any of his predecessors, although he remains reluctant to engage on many important global security issues.
As to what you are calling the Gujarat "Massacre" and others call the Gujarat riots:
The burning of a train in Godhra on 27 February 2002, which caused the deaths of 58 Hindu pilgrims karsevaks returning from Ayodhya, is cited as having instigated the violence....
Modi was cleared of complicity in the violence that followed by a Special Investigation Team. Moslems cried foul but an "Indian court upheld the earlier SIT report and rejected a petition seeking Modi's prosecution.[20] In April 2014, the Supreme Court expressed satisfaction over the SIT's investigations in nine cases related to the violence, and rejected as "baseless" a plea contesting the SIT report."
$1:
While Israeli government...and what they are doing...everyone knows that.
Huh?
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N_Fiddledog @ Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 am
However, if you would like an example of a place where religion actually can drive government here's an example you may be familiar with:
$1:
The Asia Bibi blasphemy case involves a Pakistani Christian woman, Aasiya Noreen (born c. 1971;[1] better known as Asia Bibi),[a][2] convicted of blasphemy by a Pakistani court, receiving a sentence of death by hanging in 2010. In June 2009, Noreen was involved in an argument with a group of Muslim women with whom she had been harvesting berries after the other women grew angry with her for drinking the same water as them. She was subsequently accused of insulting the Islamic prophet Muhammad, a charge she denies, and was arrested and imprisoned. In November 2010, a Sheikhupura judge sentenced her to death. If executed, Noreen would be the first woman in Pakistan to be lawfully killed for blasphemy.[3][4]
If DD would like one we can discuss the cases where western women were convicted in an Islamic court and imprisoned as adulteresses for reporting they'd been raped. Which Islamic country did that happen in again DD? Shall I look it up?
Fighter @ Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:33 am
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
However, if you would like an example of a place where religion actually can drive government here's an example you may be familiar with:
If DD would like one we can discuss the cases where western women were convicted in an Islamic court and imprisoned as adulteresses for reporting they'd been raped. Which Islamic country did that happen in again DD? Shall I look it up?
$1:
The Asia Bibi blasphemy case involves a Pakistani Christian woman, Aasiya Noreen (born c. 1971;[1] better known as Asia Bibi),[a][2] convicted of blasphemy by a Pakistani court, receiving a sentence of death by hanging in 2010. In June 2009, Noreen was involved in an argument with a group of Muslim women with whom she had been harvesting berries after the other women grew angry with her for drinking the same water as them. She was subsequently accused of insulting the Islamic prophet Muhammad, a charge she denies, and was arrested and imprisoned. In November 2010, a Sheikhupura judge sentenced her to death. If executed, Noreen would be the first woman in Pakistan to be lawfully killed for blasphemy.[3][4]
If DD would like one we can discuss the cases where western women were convicted in an Islamic court and imprisoned as adulteresses for reporting they'd been raped. Which Islamic country did that happen in again DD? Shall I look it up?
Well, Pakistan is Islamic republic...So, definitely laws will do have sort of influence of Shariah....Still, we are not "fundamental state" nor we agree with your definition of "fundamentals"
I don't know much about blasphemy law...debate occurs time to time about it on Pak media
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
I have a few problems with your examples. Fighter. Starting with this one:
Which people? What Jerusalem decision? I'd like to know which and what before conceding anybody knows why.
Apparently, you have forgotten a few details.
Actually what he said was "This crusade...this...war on terrorism is going to take awhile and the American people need to be patient."
It had nothing to do with Iraq. He said it the week following 9/11 after a strategy meeting at Camp David. I'm not sure I get your point. What is it you think that proves? That he planned to move against the terrorists who flew planes into American buildings and any state protecting them? Sure he did. So what?
Did he? I know a Palestinian Minister said he did, but do you have anything better than this:
"One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
Because to the western ear that sounds silly.
Myself and most westerners don't know too much about all that, so I looked it up.
On Modi and to what extent Hinduism affects his government:
In the last 36 months, Modi has consolidated power within the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and expanded his party’s reach with a string of successful state elections, while simultaneously devolving powers to India’s state governments. He is trying to replicate elements of his successful model of governance from his 12-year run as the chief minister of Gujarat — primarily by empowering key bureaucrats over political bosses in many ministries. He has avoided personally taking any decisions on the national level that would provoke fears of a Hindu nationalist agenda, while allowing junior regional party leaders to initiate such actions. His appetite for big policy steps is increasing, as evidenced by the November 2016 “demonetization” initiative. He has achieved notable reforms such as ending India’s “five year plans,” and initiated the creation of a stronger national market through the Goods and Services Tax, but also seen reforms of land and labor laws stymied in Parliament. And Modi has re-shaped India’s international relations, adopting a more “realpolitik” approach than any of his predecessors, although he remains reluctant to engage on many important global security issues.
As to what you are calling the Gujarat "Massacre" and others call the Gujarat riots:
The burning of a train in Godhra on 27 February 2002, which caused the deaths of 58 Hindu pilgrims karsevaks returning from Ayodhya, is cited as having instigated the violence....
Modi was cleared of complicity in the violence that followed by a Special Investigation Team. Moslems cried foul but an "Indian court upheld the earlier SIT report and rejected a petition seeking Modi's prosecution.[20] In April 2014, the Supreme Court expressed satisfaction over the SIT's investigations in nine cases related to the violence, and rejected as "baseless" a plea contesting the SIT report."
Huh?
Which people? What Jerusalem decision? I'd like to know which and what before conceding anybody knows why.
Apparently, you have forgotten a few details.
Actually what he said was "This crusade...this...war on terrorism is going to take awhile and the American people need to be patient."
It had nothing to do with Iraq. He said it the week following 9/11 after a strategy meeting at Camp David. I'm not sure I get your point. What is it you think that proves? That he planned to move against the terrorists who flew planes into American buildings and any state protecting them? Sure he did. So what?
Did he? I know a Palestinian Minister said he did, but do you have anything better than this:
"One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
Because to the western ear that sounds silly.
Myself and most westerners don't know too much about all that, so I looked it up.
On Modi and to what extent Hinduism affects his government:
In the last 36 months, Modi has consolidated power within the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and expanded his party’s reach with a string of successful state elections, while simultaneously devolving powers to India’s state governments. He is trying to replicate elements of his successful model of governance from his 12-year run as the chief minister of Gujarat — primarily by empowering key bureaucrats over political bosses in many ministries. He has avoided personally taking any decisions on the national level that would provoke fears of a Hindu nationalist agenda, while allowing junior regional party leaders to initiate such actions. His appetite for big policy steps is increasing, as evidenced by the November 2016 “demonetization” initiative. He has achieved notable reforms such as ending India’s “five year plans,” and initiated the creation of a stronger national market through the Goods and Services Tax, but also seen reforms of land and labor laws stymied in Parliament. And Modi has re-shaped India’s international relations, adopting a more “realpolitik” approach than any of his predecessors, although he remains reluctant to engage on many important global security issues.
As to what you are calling the Gujarat "Massacre" and others call the Gujarat riots:
The burning of a train in Godhra on 27 February 2002, which caused the deaths of 58 Hindu pilgrims karsevaks returning from Ayodhya, is cited as having instigated the violence....
Modi was cleared of complicity in the violence that followed by a Special Investigation Team. Moslems cried foul but an "Indian court upheld the earlier SIT report and rejected a petition seeking Modi's prosecution.[20] In April 2014, the Supreme Court expressed satisfaction over the SIT's investigations in nine cases related to the violence, and rejected as "baseless" a plea contesting the SIT report."
Huh?
Jerusalem decision of trump to appease his Evangelical Christians voter base and Jewish fundamentals of Israel. Shifting his embassy to Jerusalem city, implying city's Israel's capital which drew condemnation from whole world.
Bush junior surely slipped his tongue and called what it is "a crusade". Only fundamental Christian will use this word and we all know what were Crusades. That is ample proof how fundamentals are sitting in powerful country of west while some still take jibe at fundamental Muslims?
You could have got OBL without carnage but getting bin laden was not your motive at all, may be part of grand strategy...
Taliban offered to hand over OBL but bush rejected it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
Then Bush went against Iraq under pretext of WMD, which was pure lie and then he said what is clear proof of him being fundamental/Evangelical Christian...Not only palestinian minister recorded it but whole media brought this news that Bush went to Iraq to fulfill God's command..
He was very religious
As far as modi is concerned...There is not a single doubt in South Asia the he is a staunch hindu nationalist and was involved in Gujarat killings/riots which led to Muslim killings...as he was a chief minister of that state at that time....Muslims are getting killed in India since he got into office just because they dared to eat beef...That's why US banned Modi from travelling at that time...He was involved for sure.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/06/world/asia/modi-gujarat-riots-timeline.html
Questions have been raised on Supreme court inquiry
https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/dont-ask-dont-tell/289455
As far as Israelis are concerned, well, their fundamental government openly builds settlements in the name of God, giving damn to UN and nations of whole world...
CharlesAnthony @ Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:09 am
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
In the West the general push is toward this:
-- destroy all secular muslim countries -- prop up psycho-muslim fundamentlist countries
Fighter Fighter:
CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
--- because I love my country.
Well, I'll come to Canada when you'll invite me Canada is a country of immigrants from all over the world. They come here to escape just like my parents did long ago.
I was born and raised with the children of paki immigrants. My closest muslim friends are paks. My paki-canuckle friends explained why they do not trust foreign pakis whose allegiance is not to Canada.
Fighter @ Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:00 am
CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
No, thanks. There is something about a young affluent male who lives in a country that has no winter being interested in a country with winter is supsect. By your own admission, I am more muslim than you are.
Canada is a country of immigrants from all over the world. They come here to escape just like my parents did long ago.
I was born and raised with the children of paki immigrants. My closest muslim friends are paks. My paki-canuckle friends explained why they do not trust foreign pakis whose allegiance is not to Canada.
BartSimpson @ Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:39 am
Fighter Fighter:
People have not forgotten Jerusalem decision and we know why that decision was taken...We also have not forgotten what G.W. Bush said after attacking Iraq...To Muslims, he was radical and fundamental Christian who was even more dangerous as he was allowed to govern US and hold power to make decisions which gonna impact/destabilize the world...He said: the crusade has begun...He also said God asked me to invade Iraq.
I'm sorry chum, but neither G.H.W Bush or his son G.W.Bush were fundamentalist Christians. I know plenty of fundie Christians and neither of these two men fits the bill.
Fighter Fighter:
Hindu fundamentalist Modi has become prime minister of India...the same person who was banned by west decade ago because of his involvement in Gujarat massacre where Muslims were killed systematically right under his nose with his blessings.
Modi didn't take power in a vacuum. The notorious corruption that stagnates India has caused the emigrants from India to agitate for change at home and Modi is the result and he is in many ways similar to Trump in that he is a populist, a nationalist, and he looks to the nation's traditions as part of the answer to India's challenges.
I do not argue that the man is an extremist and please note that I personally do not support his bent for persecuting anyone who isn't a Hindu. My Sikh coworkers in particular hate the man for his oppression of Sikhism.
The problem is that India is a majority Hindu country and the majority of Hindus feel slighted enough that they elected an extremist to correct what they viewed as a pervasive anti-Indian and anti-Hindu agenda being pursued in their government.
Fighter Fighter:
While Israeli government...and what they are doing...everyone knows that.
Israel is surrounded by enemies who have repeatedly attacked it and Israel has survived. Israel's government is focused on Israel's survival.
As to the so-called Palestinians they have imposed their plight upon themselves and I have no sympathy for them. They chose the wrong side in a series of wars that were intended to exterminate the Jews and they lost. Losing a single war has consequences. Losing a bunch of wars has dire consequences.
Among those consequences is that the victor gets to decide what happens with the losers' land. The Palestinians lost. A lot.
Memo:
1. Don't start wars you can't afford to lose.
End of memo.
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