Natives sue Manitoba over flooding.
PJB @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:11 pm
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ ... 30515.html
I wonder if all of the non-natives affected by the floods can do the same thing? When you consider how many millions of dollars has been spent to house these natives in Winnipeg it makes one really wonder if this is about simple greed.
OnTheIce @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:45 pm
Did we expect anything else? 
Freakinoldguy @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:07 pm
Of course not. 
If it's about money you can bet your sorry ass the Natives will want some/most/all of it, which begs the question.
Why the fuck do we continue to fund their assault against Canada? Things like this have nothing to do with treaties or accords, and everything to do with greed.
BeaverFever @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:22 pm
I don't really see how this is a story about "Natives" and all the obligatory ranting that comes along with that in this forum..
It seems that a handful of local residents, who happen to be native and a local business are suing the government for flooding their homes and damaging their property.
One of those Natives is a firefighter. I bet if the headline of this article had been "Local Firefighter and business sue government for imcompentence" alot of the opinions already expressed on this thread would be the opposite of what they are now.
Freakinoldguy @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:24 pm
So you think it's okay for 9 residents to sue for 1 billion dollars?
I suppose if your native or a native firefighter your sense of entitlement should be alot larger than say, someone living off the reserve in Dauphine or some other small town.
As for the Fish Company isn't it owned by the Natives?
The whole thing is ludicrous and had it been a white firefighter and nine of his friends suing the Manitoba Goverment for 1 Billion dollars they'd have been laughed out of town right after they paid their own legal fees.
Regina @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:31 pm
Can I sue because the temperature in December isn't 80F ?
BeaverFever @ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:37 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
So you think it's okay for 9 residents to sue for 1 billion dollars?
I suppose if your native or a native firefighter your sense of entitlement should be alot larger than say, someone living off the reserve in Dauphine or some other small town.
As for the Fish Company isn't it owned by the Natives?
The whole thing is ludicrous and had it been a white firefighter and nine of his friends suing the Manitoba Goverment for 1 Billion dollars they'd have been laughed out of town right after they paid their own legal fees.
I suppose if your native or a native firefighter your sense of entitlement should be alot larger than say, someone living off the reserve in Dauphine or some other small town.
As for the Fish Company isn't it owned by the Natives?
The whole thing is ludicrous and had it been a white firefighter and nine of his friends suing the Manitoba Goverment for 1 Billion dollars they'd have been laughed out of town right after they paid their own legal fees.
No, I don't think they 'deserve' nor will they receive a billion. you know how lawsuits work...aim high and settle for what you can get..
Also, don't forget that in addition to the natives there's a commercial fish operation suing for property damage and lost revenue.
Also Regina - of note: the suit is not because rain caused a flood. The suit alleges that the flood control system diverted water from the Assiniboine to their property through a floodgate that was left open (either deliberately or accidentally) and the residents were not warned in advance, nor adequately cared for when they were evacuated.
Curtman @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:06 am
Regina Regina:
Can I sue because the temperature in December isn't 80F ?
$1:
Its operation of the Shellmouth Dam, the Portage Diversion and the Fairford River Water Control Structure caused flooding of the communities in the spring of 2011, the court document says.
Water from the swollen Assiniboine River was diverted into Lake Manitoba and then through the Fairford water control structure that was left open. That resulted in higher-than-normal water levels flowing into the Fairford River, Lake St. Martin and Dauphin River causing "sudden and massive flooding" in the aboriginal communities, the statement claims. The suit claims the province failed to provide adequate warning to people.
Water from the swollen Assiniboine River was diverted into Lake Manitoba and then through the Fairford water control structure that was left open. That resulted in higher-than-normal water levels flowing into the Fairford River, Lake St. Martin and Dauphin River causing "sudden and massive flooding" in the aboriginal communities, the statement claims. The suit claims the province failed to provide adequate warning to people.
Maybe if you can show that the government sacrificed your safety for that of others. You might also need to have a treaty rights to housing and education that were not being met. Who's to say though, give it a try.
BeaverFever @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:23 pm
Doesn't sound like this has anything to do with treaties or aboriginal issues. The fact that these particular residents are native seems to be circumstantial and irrelevant, based on what's in the article.
andyt @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:27 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Doesn't sound like this has anything to do with treaties or aboriginal issues. The fact that these particular residents are native seems to be circumstantial and irrelevant, based on what's in the article.
That's what I was thinking too. Anybody that feels the govt hung them out to dry can sue. Oh, sorry, I guess that's a bad pun.
OnTheIce @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:29 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Doesn't sound like this has anything to do with treaties or aboriginal issues. The fact that these particular residents are native seems to be circumstantial and irrelevant, based on what's in the article.
Come on dude, get a grip. Stop defending people that are indefensible!
If this was a bunch of whiteys from Saskatchewan, nothing would be said. No lawsuit, just move on and pick up the pieces.
Natives in Canada are ALWAYS Looking for a handout. This is no different.
Curtman @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:41 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
If this was a bunch of whiteys from Saskatchewan, nothing would be said. No lawsuit, just move on and pick up the pieces.
Natives in Canada are ALWAYS Looking for a handout. This is no different.
Natives in Canada are ALWAYS Looking for a handout. This is no different.
You are full of it.
Farmer suing province over ruined property
$1:
The 75-year-old Poole is suing the province for ruining his once-productive farm, and he wants them to buy him out so he can purchase drier land somewhere else to raise his crops and feed his cattle.
Freakinoldguy @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:29 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Also, don't forget that in addition to the natives there's a commercial fish operation suing for property damage and lost revenue.
A little research turned up this gem about the commercial fish operation.
$1:
Dauphin River Fisheries Co Ltd
Address:
2 Anama Bay Blk 4 # 1,
Gypsumville MB,
R0C 1J0
Sales:
$500,000 - $1 Million
Employees:
Approximately: three employees work at this location
Address:
2 Anama Bay Blk 4 # 1,
Gypsumville MB,
R0C 1J0
Sales:
$500,000 - $1 Million
Employees:
Approximately: three employees work at this location
What a crock of shit.
So now it's affecting 12 people and a half assed company so I guess it still makes sense for them to be suing for a billion dollars for all that lost revenue.
Even you have to admit that when people pull this kind of shit it hurts their cause more than helps it.
What scares me is that some left wing judge somewhere will see that it's Natives suing, get a large case of apologetic self loathing and decide to do his part to correct all the wrongs done to every native in Canada with one stroke of the pen.
These people are entitled to compensation no doubt but, a billion dollars is ridiculous and a slap in the face of every other Native and Non Native in Canada who has survived a natural disaster.
Macguyver @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:47 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
These people are entitled to compensation no doubt but, a billion dollars is ridiculous and a slap in the face of every other Native and Non Native in Canada who has survived a natural disaster.
Well fucking say that then instead of :
$1:
If it's about money you can bet your sorry ass the Natives will want some/most/all of it, which begs the question.
Why the fuck do we continue to fund their assault against Canada? Things like this have nothing to do with treaties or accords, and everything to do with greed.
Why the fuck do we continue to fund their assault against Canada? Things like this have nothing to do with treaties or accords, and everything to do with greed.
Why do you have to insult all the hard working Canadians who by no choice of their own are not your breed of white? That is rhetorical BTW because I know why.
Greed is colour blind, and while poor people may have many WANTS it is generally the people with money and power who are the greedy ones.
Anyone regardless of race should be free to use our legal system to protect themselves. A billion dollars might be quite a huge sum of money, but whomever fell asleep at the switch or intentionally flooded someone out of a home or a job might think twice next time.
Why does everything have to be about someone's race to you people. Why can't these just be Canadians who got the shaft trying to take a stand? OTH and FOG that again is a rhetorical question. Because we know why.
peck420 @ Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:53 pm
Did you just give a person crap for using generalities, then follow it up with a generality?
Just a question for clarity?