Non-Native Actions Have An Impact, Too
OnTheIce @ Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:30 am
JaredMilne JaredMilne:
Unfortunately, it's hard to make headway when we're stuck in the legal limbo that's resulted from originally trying to assimilate Indigenous peoples, and then officially backing off on that goal...without actually determining what it will be replaced with.
And the courts have indicated-repeatedly-that Indigenous Treaty, land use and consultation rights are part of the Constitution.
Recognizing those rights is something we've never really tried.
And the courts have indicated-repeatedly-that Indigenous Treaty, land use and consultation rights are part of the Constitution.
Recognizing those rights is something we've never really tried.
What does that have to do with drug abuse?
Alcoholism?
High suicide rates?
We can apologize until the cows come home. We can recognize all the land claims and have more warm-and-fuzzy photo ops and what will change?
Nothing!
I don't get why people keep saying things like this as if it's going to make one ounce of difference within our Native communities.
JaredMilne @ Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:52 pm
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
What does that have to do with drug abuse?
Alcoholism?
High suicide rates?
We can apologize until the cows come home. We can recognize all the land claims and have more warm-and-fuzzy photo ops and what will change?
Nothing!
I don't get why people keep saying things like this as if it's going to make one ounce of difference within our Native communities.
Alcoholism?
High suicide rates?
We can apologize until the cows come home. We can recognize all the land claims and have more warm-and-fuzzy photo ops and what will change?
Nothing!
I don't get why people keep saying things like this as if it's going to make one ounce of difference within our Native communities.
Well, for one thing it might give them better legal tools to actually engage in economic development and social support necessary to actually deal with these things, instead of having to simply rely on government programs to do it.
That's one thing that Indigenous leaders have repeatedly been clear about-private industry and development is quite welcome, but they just want to make sure that some of the benefits actually develop the community itself over the long term, rather than just a short term flash in the pan. The province and territories exercise such policies as a matter of course.
OnTheIce @ Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:05 pm
JaredMilne JaredMilne:
Well, for one thing it might give them better legal tools to actually engage in economic development and social support necessary to actually deal with these things, instead of having to simply rely on government programs to do it.
That's one thing that Indigenous leaders have repeatedly been clear about-private industry and development is quite welcome, but they just want to make sure that some of the benefits actually develop the community itself over the long term, rather than just a short term flash in the pan. The province and territories exercise such policies as a matter of course.
Sorry. but that's nonsense.
Economic development doesn't happen in rural Canada unless the land is home to natural resources. Those on or near such projects are paid and many of the local Indigenous people are employed.
Just look at what happened in Attawapiskat.
De Beers goes in with a diamond mine that will employ locals and put money into the pockets of the Band. 100 people from the community were employed there and many more got direct payments from the company. The company also hosted training programs. The community owned or jointly owned all the permanent contracts in the Victor mine.
What happened? Even after De Beers came in and paid for people to ensure the Community was looked after with respect to fair contracts, they weren't getting enough money so they protested, closed down roads, the usual Native tactics.
Very few of these communities are looking for "economic development". They're looking for a payout.
bjolly @ Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:04 am
Residential school in my area- was split in two. Grades 1-8 in nearby town then to finish high school, FN students had to ship out to Sudbury for grades 9-12. Would you want to continue school? - if you spent kindergarten to grade 8 getting beaten, raped, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly?
Many communities don't all have 'educated' leadership but well experienced in behaviors from surviving violence and all manners of abuse by nuns and priests. Nepotism is big in FN communities too.
bjolly @ Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:59 am
If FN's were allowed to open casino's - their whole communities would change. There would be bumps and thumps maybe with 'fast $$ syndrome' and corruption, and once that's over and a 'reality' grip of the reins in hand. Life would change for far, far, better.
Canada allows NON-Indigenous people to open casinos but NOT Indigenous peoples though. What's that say about govt and Indigenous relations?
llama66 @ Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:21 am
Casino Rama, near Orillia is on Reserve Land and run by the local band, as is Grey Eagle Casino here in Calgary. There are many Band run casinos in Canada.
JaredMilne @ Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:01 am
The Enoch Cree nation just outside Edmonton also runs the River Cree resort and casino. They've hosted plenty of local conferences, gatherings, concerts, etc.