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Question. Why is native culture so much more important than

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Wada @ Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:53 pm

Those of us who adopted this continent on which to live our lives have a duty to allow the native people's history to be taught in our schools. It is the long and rich history of this land and certainly NOT simply the history of this land since the white man encroached on same.

If we expect others coming to this continent to "fit in" should we not determine to do the same? :wink:

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:53 pm

it's all an oral tradition full of myths, legend and other folklore. i'm afraid we didn't adopt it. these nice, warm, fuzzy PC terms didn't exist when we arrived. it was taken much the same way we took from each other back in europe.

   



TattoodGirl @ Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:18 pm

Personally, I am very proud of my Native and Polish ancestory and enjoy the mix of both cultural backgrounds. What is important to understand is, it was against the law for First Nation peoples to practice any of their celebrations and ceremonies until the late 60's. Being forced to throw your culture to the wayside is a loss of identity. In Canada, everyone is free to practice and participate in their culture, I am having a hard time understanding why there is so much hate towards First Nation Heritage.

First Nation Culture isnt just based on "oral tradition of myth, legend and folklore", there is so much more to it than that. Maybe if some of the people who seem to have a vehemence towards First Nations or other cultures other than their own, learned about the differences, they may appreciate the cultures more. But ignorance is bliss isnt it?

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:24 pm

heritage should be taught in the home. it shouldn't be paid for by government funds. this is the beef most have with it.

$1:
First Nation Culture isnt just based on "oral tradition of myth, legend and folklore", there is so much more to it than that.


such as?

   



Wada @ Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:16 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
heritage should be taught in the home. it shouldn't be paid for by government funds. this is the beef most have with it.

$1:
First Nation Culture isnt just based on "oral tradition of myth, legend and folklore", there is so much more to it than that.


such as?


Lots of things should be taught in the home. Is that where learning should end? :idea:

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:17 pm

if others ask you to share your heritage...that's fine.

   



sasquatch2 @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:15 am

Tattoo girl

$1:
First Nation Culture isnt just based on "oral tradition of myth, legend and folklore", there is so much more to it than that.


Yes. Champlain's surveys were delayed while he threaded his way between FN printing presses.

Frontenac constructed the Quebec citadel on the foundations of earlier FN cathedrals and universities.

Early Quebec habitant heated their homes with FN literature.

Really north of the Rio Grande FN culture was that of a stone age, largely hunting and gathering culture, without the wheel and an oral tradition.

FN agriculture was limited to summer congregations, which disbursed to small winter hunting camps.

   



ridenrain @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:37 am

I still get a giggle of the idea of natives running herds of buffalo over cliffs, then getting all sanctimonious because the white man shot them instead.

   



sasquatch2 @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:02 am

Running game over cliffs was a technique practiced by Cro-Magnon in Ice Age ME.

Warroad MINN is named for the remains of a genuine war-path near the local high-school. Apparently the local tree-hugging pacifists, the Ojibwa, for centuries, would beat this path on their way to make war on their neighbours, the Sioux.

   



sandorski @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:10 am

ridenrain ridenrain:
I still get a giggle of the idea of natives running herds of buffalo over cliffs, then getting all sanctimonious because the white man shot them instead.


The Natives didn't drive the Bison to the point of extinction.

   



Wada @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:13 am

ridenrain ridenrain:
I still get a giggle of the idea of natives running herds of buffalo over cliffs, then getting all sanctimonious because the white man shot them instead.


Gee Riden, could YOU be any more "sanctimonious"? :roll:

   



sandorski @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:17 am

Certainly the idea of the Peaceful Native is not very accurate, but before that became popular the idea was that they were all Barbaric Savages which was also inaccurate. The truth lies in the middle, they were not much different than the Europeans who eventually replaced them as the dominant force.

Like Europeans, some Native Tribes were quite Peaceful, but were willing to go to War if need be. Other Tribes were not very Peaceful and were very much Warmongers. Some Tribes were quite Advanced Culturally, while others were not. Some were Nomadic Hunters, while others established Cities and had Advanced forms of Agriculture.

   



ridenrain @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:19 am

The popular myth of using all of the animal kind of falls by the wayside when you have dozens of dead carcasses and no way to preserve them.

   



Wada @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:26 am

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Running game over cliffs was a technique practiced by Cro-Magnon in Ice Age ME.

Warroad MINN is named for the remains of a genuine war-path near the local high-school. Apparently the local tree-hugging pacifists, the Ojibwa, for centuries, would beat this path on their way to make war on their neighbours, the Sioux.


So what! Are you just bragging that your great grand father was as smart as the Indians? By the way the Sioux had the best "After War" treats within proximity of the Ojibwa, so what the hell eh!
:roll:

   



Wada @ Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:33 am

ridenrain ridenrain:
The popular myth of using all of the animal kind of falls by the wayside when you have dozens of dead carcasses and no way to preserve them.


Oh Yah only the Scots knew how to use all the cattle they killed, but then Haggis ain't all it's reported to be either. Been smoking that BC Bud again, have you? :wink:

   



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