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Brenda @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:55 am

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Brenda Brenda:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Btw, my old man was never a cop :wink:

He missed his calling :twisted:


Well no, my point is, unless yere gonna ban police officers from drinking whilst off duty, stuff like this will happen from time to time.

Let's face it, cop or not, a supposed higher moral power or not, we are humans.
If everyone of us were to be castigated for something stupid we did during our down time, most of us would no longer have jobs at this point.

I just hope that those in here that have shit on the cops for anything and everything, never fail to live up to their own, obviously very high moral standards.

:lol:
I was being a smart ass :oops:

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:22 am

Brenda Brenda:
:lol:
I was being a smart ass :oops:

Ohh well in that case, can you sit on an ice cream cone and tell what flavour it is? :lol: :wink:

   



HyperionTheEvil @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:26 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
andyt andyt:
Yogi Yogi:

So for all of you 'bashers' here, let's have some FAIR INK. Research a couple of Canadian corporations with the same number of employees and post the results. Bet you are going to find a lot higher numbers of 'infractions' within those companies! But of course you won't take the time to do that. Will you??? Not near as much fun eh!


You're missing the point, Yogi. We don't give the employees of those companies guns and the power of arrest. Cops are a special case, and IMO do need to be held to a higher standard. Especially when on the job, but to some degree when off duty as well. That's the way it is, and if an individual can't accept that, they shouldn't be cops.

If you were a badass as a kid, or still are, well then you deserve the attention of the cops, and I'm glad they're giving it to you. But in the cases cited, that was just not the case, or the cops' response was way out of proportion to the crime. But what worries me most of all about those cases are the attempted cover ups. If the brass was tough on cops that step out of line, I would be much more reassured. Instead they spin spin spin, and the truth seems to come out only when somebody has a video.

Take the case of the cop shoving the woman to the ground. He did report that to his supervisor at the end of the shift. I give him props for that, guess he had time to reconsider his actions. But the only reason the video came out is because some body leaked it - the VPD sat on it before then.


No, you are missing the point. Hes a off-duty cop. Key point here being off-duty. What he does off-duty no longer reflects on his job. It reflects on the individual. If he was drunk while ON the job, yeah there is something to be worried about there. However all you guys are high off your ass on the fact this individual was a cop. There is no barrier that states cops have to upstanding citizens off-duty. When they are off-duty they are the same as any other citizen. They can do what they wish, if they want to drink than so be it. Just like some CEO or Employee who gets off work can go to a bar and hammer a couple beers. Key point here is as long as they don't do it at work.

As well you sound like a conspiracy theorist, where cops break the law all the time and the entire police department goes into a coverup. IMO I think you watch way too many cop movies. Sure there are bad cops, people who shouldn't be in the job. However get your head out of your ass. Not every accusation against them is true, neither every crime. What I find the most funny is how all you guys are so quick to charge a cop with a crime. I think you got authority issues, it's good to keep cops on there toes when they do bad shit. However if you don't give cops the benefit of the doubt where would if the individual was just some random citizen. Than you know you have issues, because people like biggerdick and maybe you. It is quite apparent that the only reason for paying attention to the crime was the fact he was a cop. If he was a normal citizen with the same excuse, he would probally get the same punishment. Hell even killers get slaps on the wrists apparently for there crimes. You'd all just shrug and not care. You want "justice" and are quick to call his story bs for the simple fact hes a cop. Yup, authority issues.



I'm sorry but it's cops themselves who make the claim they are 'never off duty", but even so if one has a doctor who commits malpractice,either in or out of the office they are still held accountable.

   



HyperionTheEvil @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:29 pm

Yogi Yogi:
These 'Let's denigrate every Cop' threads are not only sickenly childish, they are getting tiresome as well. If 'anyone here' could possibly have a 'real reason' to 'hate' Cops. I would say that would be me! I have been beaten, clubbed, skull broken by unidentified officer, jailed numerous times, and done prison time. All because COPS arrested me. The bastards!
Truth be known, The Cops never bothered me when I wasn't breaking the law in some fashion! More to the fact, I was an asshole. For the most part, the Cops were just doing their job. I understand that I wasn't the most compliant individual they had ever dealt with.
To be sure, some Cops shouldn't be Cops. I've met a few of them! They just aren't 'cut out' for the job. But they are truly in the minority.

So for all of you 'bashers' here, let's have some FAIR INK. Research a couple of Canadian corporations with the same number of employees and post the results. Bet you are going to find a lot higher numbers of 'infractions' within those companies! But of course you won't take the time to do that. Will you??? Not near as much fun and doesn't boost your ego eh!


Were not talking about you breaking the law, we're talking about cops breaking the law and still working as cops, and we're talking about how police forces cover up or minimize the crimes of their colleagues . And the difference between an accountant and police officer is that particular office worker doesn't take an oath to uphold the law

That means upholding it all the time, not just when sober.

   



Proculation @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:29 pm

They are held accountable with their association. Not with the law. (the doctors)

   



HyperionTheEvil @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:34 pm

Proculation Proculation:
They are held accountable with their association. Not with the law. (the doctors)



They are if the commit a crime, it's called negligence.

   



Proculation @ Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:42 pm

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
Proculation Proculation:
They are held accountable with their association. Not with the law. (the doctors)



They are if the commit a crime, it's called negligence.


Yes, of course. I was responding to that comment from you:

$1:
I'm sorry but it's cops themselves who make the claim they are 'never off duty", but even so if one has a doctor who commits malpractice,either in or out of the office they are still held accountable.


malpractice is not necessary a crime.

   



HyperionTheEvil @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:39 am

$1:
Yes, of course. I was responding to that comment from you:



I like to keep track of racists, and where they spread their filth.

   



EyeBrock @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:55 am

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
Yogi Yogi:
These 'Let's denigrate every Cop' threads are not only sickenly childish, they are getting tiresome as well. If 'anyone here' could possibly have a 'real reason' to 'hate' Cops. I would say that would be me! I have been beaten, clubbed, skull broken by unidentified officer, jailed numerous times, and done prison time. All because COPS arrested me. The bastards!
Truth be known, The Cops never bothered me when I wasn't breaking the law in some fashion! More to the fact, I was an asshole. For the most part, the Cops were just doing their job. I understand that I wasn't the most compliant individual they had ever dealt with.
To be sure, some Cops shouldn't be Cops. I've met a few of them! They just aren't 'cut out' for the job. But they are truly in the minority.

So for all of you 'bashers' here, let's have some FAIR INK. Research a couple of Canadian corporations with the same number of employees and post the results. Bet you are going to find a lot higher numbers of 'infractions' within those companies! But of course you won't take the time to do that. Will you??? Not near as much fun and doesn't boost your ego eh!


Were not talking about you breaking the law, we're talking about cops breaking the law and still working as cops, and we're talking about how police forces cover up or minimize the crimes of their colleagues . And the difference between an accountant and police officer is that particular office worker doesn't take an oath to uphold the law

That means upholding it all the time, not just when sober.



Pay cops 24 hours a day and you might have a point sailor boy.

   



andyt @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:23 am

Well the drunk cops that beat the newspaper guy telling him "we don't like brown people" seemed to think they were on the job. They identified themselves as cops when the on duty boys showed up, told him they were making an arrest, and initially the newspaper guy was the one arrested by the on duty cops - until all the witnesses spoke up. Guess the on duty guys planned to charge him with repeatedly throwing his face and body against the fists of those stalwart off duty guys, maintaining la droit even under the difficult condition of having consumed 20 drinks each.

   



uwish @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:31 am

Unfortunately, the recruiting process for the RCMP has indeed dropped it's standard. I have no knowledge of the RCMP hiring anyone who was under 25 years old about a decade ago. They would say get more life experience and come back, plus, you almost always required some form of post secondary eduction. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case. So there could be an argument that the increased number of 'incidents' is related to their relaxed recruiting process. Of course, that is all subjective but it seems to me that the vast majority of all these incidents involving RCMP misconduct is coming from members under 30 and under 25 in particular.

Just a thought.

   



andyt @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:34 am

uwish uwish:
Unfortunately, the recruiting process for the RCMP has indeed dropped it's standard. I have no knowledge of the RCMP hiring anyone who was under 25 years old about a decade ago. They would say get more life experience and come back, plus, you almost always required some form of post secondary eduction. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case. So there could be an argument that the increased number of 'incidents' is related to their relaxed recruiting process. Of course, that is all subjective but it seems to me that the vast majority of all these incidents involving RCMP misconduct is coming from members under 30 and under 25 in particular.

Just a thought.


Yep, that was also one criticism of the force by the ex RCMP speaking about the missing couple incident - they are having trouble recruiting good people. Ian Bush and Keven St Arnaud were both shot by rookies. The guys I described above, while not RCMP, were also rookies - I guess power got to their heads.

   



digerdick @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:42 am

Deep down in every cops brain is a feeling of superiority and power even when they are drunk and off duty........... They think they will be protected by the system so their actions will be justified....... WHO is going to protect you......WHO are you going to call ........It has to be the cops because they are highly trained HEROs.........EVERY arrogant power hungry BULLIES dream of self important s..............

   



EyeBrock @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:46 am

andyt andyt:
Well the drunk cops that beat the newspaper guy telling him "we don't like brown people" seemed to think they were on the job. They identified themselves as cops when the on duty boys showed up, told him they were making an arrest, and initially the newspaper guy was the one arrested by the on duty cops - until all the witnesses spoke up. Guess the on duty guys planned to charge him with repeatedly throwing his face and body against the fists of those stalwart off duty guys, maintaining la droit even under the difficult condition of having consumed 20 drinks each.



It's not even worth discussing these issues with you anymore andy. All cops are the same as the few bad ones to you. Karma is a bitch mate.

   



Brenda @ Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:47 am

diggerdick diggerdick:
Deep down in every persons brain is a feeling of superiority and power even when they are drunk and on their spare time, or even at work........... They think they will be protected by the system so their actions will be justified....... The cops will protect you......The cops is who you are going to call ........It has to be the cops because they are highly trained individuals.........

Fixed that for ya.

Now can this cop bashing be done with? It's REALLY getting old.

   



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