ADQ's Quebec Immigration
Pimpbrewski @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:16 pm
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Criticism about the ad campaign comes as a new poll suggests more than half of Quebecers agree with an ADQ immigration policy that calls for lower caps on newcomers.
At least 51 per cent of Quebecers say they share the same opinion as Action Démocratique du Québec Leader Mario Dumont, who believes the province cannot absorb any more immigrants than it already takes in every year.
The poll found slight differences among different party supporters. Sixty-four per cent of ADQ voters said Quebec has reached its immigration limit, compared to 52 per cent of Parti Québécois supporters, and 48 per cent of Liberals polled for the survey.
The ADQ's immigration policy is resonating with a majority of Quebecers even as the party loses favour overall among voters.
At least 51 per cent of Quebecers say they share the same opinion as Action Démocratique du Québec Leader Mario Dumont, who believes the province cannot absorb any more immigrants than it already takes in every year.
The poll found slight differences among different party supporters. Sixty-four per cent of ADQ voters said Quebec has reached its immigration limit, compared to 52 per cent of Parti Québécois supporters, and 48 per cent of Liberals polled for the survey.
The ADQ's immigration policy is resonating with a majority of Quebecers even as the party loses favour overall among voters.
Mr. Dumont has made a controversial, still a crucial political move.
My vote has been secured for the ADQ.
Either way, where is Proculation when you need him.
At the least, wanted to get his opinion on this matter.
Ok, there is some controversy about the ADQ posters, still the ADQ is taking a stand and that has to be respected.
Majority agree with ADQ's view on policy on immigration
CommanderSock @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:59 pm
/sigh, LePen is a moron, following his style of policies will probably work better in Quebec than it did in France. I hope this scares of the best and brightest, they can bring their tax money here, just like so many of the corporate HQs that are now situated in Mississauga. Vive le Ontario lol.
Benoit @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:20 pm
In France as in Quebec, most far-right voters are strangely located in ridings where there are no significant numbers of immigrants.
westmanguy @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:27 pm
Good for Dumont, taking a stand.
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
Benoit @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:33 pm
westmanguy westmanguy:
Good for Dumont, taking a stand.
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
Josee Verner and Maxime Bernier are certainly like Mario Dumont: all three are combating their own shyness by taking arbitrary stands.
Pimpbrewski @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:37 pm
westmanguy westmanguy:
Good for Dumont, taking a stand.
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
That's it Westmanguy.
The ADQ in value is mostly right wing. There are some controversy in the immigration matter in the province, but overall, Dumont seems to be a very good politician.
Something here has to be said, the Quebec media doesn't seem to give him a chance. They consider the ADQ as a joke. Personally, it is a very good alternative option to the ''old'' political parties in QC. Liberals and PQ. Sure, they are still a relatively new political party, still it is a very good option.
Benoit @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:41 pm
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
westmanguy westmanguy:
Good for Dumont, taking a stand.
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
Hopefully this bumps their numbers in the polls, giving them the fuel needed to bring down the Liberal minority (with the help of the PQ).
It would be really really good for Quebec to have an ADQ Minority/Majority, and that combined with a Conservative federal government, means very good things for Quebec.
Many ADQ'ists are Conservatives, and most Conservative seats in Quebec are in ADQ Provincial areas (i.e. Quebec City).
Dumont seems to be a very good politician.
Something here has to be said, the Quebec media doesn't seem to give him a chance.
One one-man party, what more can you ask for?
Red_Eye @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:45 pm
He's addressing the issue by how much can the province can absorb finacialy.
We have our own welfare casses , we don't need to import more.
Benoit @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:54 pm
Red_Eye Red_Eye:
He's addressing the issue by how much can the province can absorb finacialy.
We have our own welfare casses , we don't need to import more.
We have our own welfare casses , we don't need to import more.
Dumont is linking immigration with the French language's situation in Montreal.
Durandal @ Thu May 08, 2008 6:07 pm
The ADQ's position is right on.
Anyways we don't need immigration. Enough already. http://redux.over-blog.net/article-19224966.html
Le Québec aux Québécois.
Benoit @ Thu May 08, 2008 7:47 pm
Durandal Durandal:
Le Québec aux Québécois.
Paraphrasing Jean-Marie Le Pen now!
Bruce_the_vii @ Fri May 09, 2008 2:38 am
Here's the estimated real unemployment in Quebec by Statisics Canadas second measure of unemployment, the adult praticipation rate in the labour force.
___________________________Exhibit 1
****************************_Quebec_******************************
___City________Official ____Labour Force__Adjusted____ Estimated_________Data
____________Unemployment____Level____LabourForce______Real________Source
_____________(percent)_______(percent)____(old age)____Unemployment_______
____________________________(NB1)______(NB 3)_________(NB2)___________
Montreal_______7.5___________66.9______________________14.0_______Feb. 2008
Quebec________5.8___________66.2_______________________13.3______Feb. 2008
Gatineau_______4.5___________73.2_______________________NB 4_____Feb. 2008
Saquenay_______9.9____________58.6______________________26.7_____Feb. 2008
Trois-Rivieres___8.7____________63.9______________________18.95____Feb. 2008
Sherbrooke_____6.4_____________64.8______________________15.8____Feb. 2008
Shawinigan_____10.4___________53.3_______________________33.7____2007
Granby_________7.7____________69.4______________________11.0_____2007
Saint-Jean-sur-
__Richeliue_____7.8____________61.3_______________________21.5____2007
Rouyan-
__Noranda______8.2____________67.1_______________________14.4____2007
Sept-Iles________6.7____________66.0_______________________14.4____Census
Baie Comeau____7.5_____________67.2_______________________13.7____Census
Rimouski_______7.3____________63.5________________________18.2____Census
.********************************************************************
.********************************************************************
Canada________6.0_____________68.0________________________11.3___Mar. 2008
Quebec________8.0_____________65.1________________________16.8___Mar. 2008
416___________6.2_____________66.6________________________13.2___Feb. 2008
NB. 1 The Labour Force level is the “the adult ‘participation’ in the work force”.
NB. 2. The standard of 72% of the adult population in the work force is the base gleaned from best cities. As the number of people working goes higher than that this may be conservative. In practice it should be tested, experimented with.
NB. 3 I did not correct for the age profile of Quebec cities as it is not distorted as much as in the West.
NB. 4 The Gatineau has a younger population profile than the rest of Quebec. However it is doing much better than the rest of the province.
***********************_Best Cities_Standard (NB 5)_***********************
___City________Official ____Labour Force__Adjusted____ Estimated_________Data
____________Unemployment____Level____LabourForce______Real________Source
_____________(percent)_______(percent)____(old age)____Unemployment_______
____________________________(NB1)______(NB 3)_________(NB2)___________
Calgary_______3.0______________(74.9)__________70.8_________same___Feb. 2008
Edmonton______3.8_____________(73.2)__________70.6_________same__Feb. 2008
Grande Praire___3.8_____________(80.2)__________73.4_________same__Census
Red Deer_______3.1____________(79.3)___________75.4_________same__2007
Medicine Hat____3.8____________(75.0)___________75.4_________same__2005
905____________5.2____________(79.2)___________75.x________same___Aug 1990
Barrie__________6.1_____________(76.2)____________73.4________same__2006
NB 5. The best cities all have rather a younger population. I subtracted the people 65 or older relative to the Canadian average, several percentage points. As retirement age is 62 – 63 this may not be enough.
Benoit @ Fri May 09, 2008 5:40 am
Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:
Here's the estimated real unemployment in Quebec by Statisics Canadas second measure of unemployment, the adult praticipation rate in the labour force.
It's a thread about ADQ's position on immigration!
Bruce_the_vii @ Fri May 09, 2008 4:30 pm
There's a school of thought that if you add immigration to unemployment you'll get more unemployment. Economists tend to say it'll clear up the unemployment.
kenmore @ Fri May 09, 2008 5:32 pm
As a Quebecer I agree.. I think Canada should halt immigration for 5 yrs..
esp from middle east countries... my opinion... no reciprocation needed