whats up with the hard on for lefties
Count_Lothian @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:58 am
As for the left.
The NDP has always appealed to my social bent , but i just cannot vote for them.
I don't know why, i think it is a propaganda thing.
The last incarnations of the Liberals was truly insane.
It led me to believe what dear old dad said.
That huge money runs this country and they choose when the Liberals are in and make for a nice cozy living conditions.
When it gets too cozy the Cosnervatives come and play hardball and bring back the country from becoming a socialist utopia.
so we had Dion wanting to tax gasoline when it hit an all time high of $1'44 a litre.
Then Ignatieff (wow apple spells his name)((that elusive off topic medal, have people forgotten))
goes and shows his intellectualism to the point people fell asleep.
two off topics things.
At liberal leadership conventions there is a rule that one time you get an English leader and the next a French.
It is a rule. those conventions make me puke. It's a circus maximus.
Why do canadians buy into Harper, he wins every election with repeating some asinine point over and over.
could Mulcair be the man. should i try him on.
Is he and his party that awful.
martin14 @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:01 am
Count_Lothian Count_Lothian:
Can someone help me out here and tell me something he really did to help Canada grow.
If you stick your head out of the window of the old folk's home,
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
Growth ?
Stop being such an entitled fart.
If you see your property values drop 50% like in Spain,
no police on the streets and locked hospitals because no money in Iceland,
the government walking in and emptying your bank account like in Cyprus,
60% youth unemployment like in Greece,
staring at a military invasion like in Ukraine,
then you can start to whine about Harper. Fact is turds like you have
absolutely zero idea how lucky you have had it the past 6 six years.
Now zip it, ya half wit.
DrCaleb @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:13 am
martin14 martin14:
Count_Lothian Count_Lothian:
Can someone help me out here and tell me something he really did to help Canada grow.
If you stick your head out of the window of the old folk's home,
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
Was that Harper though, or was that the banking regulations that were there before Harper took office?
martin14 @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:23 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Was that Harper though, or was that the banking regulations that were there before Harper took office?
Euro banking regulations were fairly tight until 2008, when the roof caved in.
Italy and Greece have government spending issues, not banking problems per se.
Complain about too much gov't spending or not enough, Harper kept that more
or less under control.
Iceland's banking problems, they will paying for that for the next 50 years.
Ireland as well.
Cyprus was a joke, but it was a government law to haircut all the bank accounts,
endorsed by the EU.
Spain has serious banking problems, created when so many defaulted on mortgages,
not because of ninja or other US crap loans, but because all the foreign money
invested in houses and infrastructure dried up rather quickly.
And all the jobs that went with them.
German control of the ECB hasn't helped them at all.
Count_Lothian @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:26 am
martin14 martin14:
Count_Lothian Count_Lothian:
Can someone help me out here and tell me something he really did to help Canada grow.
If you stick your head out of the window of the old folk's home,
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
Growth ?
Stop being such an entitled fart.
If you see your property values drop 50% like in Spain,
no police on the streets and locked hospitals because no money in Iceland,
the government walking in and emptying your bank account like in Cyprus,
60% youth unemployment like in Greece,
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staring at a military invasion like in Ukraine
,then you can start to whine about Harper. Fact is turds like you have
absolutely zero idea how lucky you have had it the past 6 six years.
Now zip it, ya half wit.
ahh i see so your saying Harper saved Canada from
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property values drop 50% like in Spain
even though it was Chretien who would not allow for the banking laws to go the way of Wall Street
cool i get that.
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no police on the streets and locked hospitals because no money in Iceland
yes i recall growing up in Canada when all was mayhem and we did not even have a hospital anywhere.
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the government walking in and emptying your bank account like in Cyprus
Yes if it wasn't for Flaherty we all would be locked out of banks like before Harper took power
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60% youth unemployment like in Greece
my my I forgot since Harper came to power less kids live at home and far more youth are working in their careers of choice.
Wow i should be grateful.
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staring at a military invasion like in Ukraine
,Yikes!!! i was held in prison by those foreign invaders from the time of Pearson , it's not my fault for forgetting those heady invasion days.
$1:
then you can start to whine about Harper. Fact is turds like you have
absolutely zero idea how lucky you have had it the past 6 six years.
Now zip it, ya half wit. :roll
absolutely zero idea how lucky you have had it the past 6 six years.
Now zip it, ya half wit. :roll
Ok thanks for bringing me up to snuff.
your a genius.
Count_Lothian @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:31 am
martin14 martin14:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Was that Harper though, or was that the banking regulations that were there before Harper took office?
Euro banking regulations were fairly tight until 2008, when the roof caved in.
Italy and Greece have government spending issues, not banking problems per se.
Complain about too much gov't spending or not enough, Harper kept that more
or less under control.
Iceland's banking problems, they will paying for that for the next 50 years.
Ireland as well.
Cyprus was a joke, but it was a government law to haircut all the bank accounts,
endorsed by the EU.
Spain has serious banking problems, created when so many defaulted on mortgages,
not because of ninja or other US crap loans, but because all the foreign money
invested in houses and infrastructure dried up rather quickly.
And all the jobs that went with them.
German control of the ECB hasn't helped them at all.
sorry to break your take on economics.
Europe is in trouble due to adopting the same mortgage rules that destroyed America in 2008.
they have initiated certain measures to combat this abuse.
http://www.eba.europa.eu/regulation-and ... iii-europe
from the site;
$1:
improve the banking sector's ability to absorb shocks arising from financial and economic stress, whatever the source
improve risk management and governance
strengthen banks' transparency and disclosures.
improve risk management and governance
strengthen banks' transparency and disclosures.
Zipperfish @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:53 pm
Count_Lothian Count_Lothian:
Why do right wingers loathe left wingers?
i would like to know why is all.
no agendas just take my query at face value.
someone just got a nomination for being a lefty like it's worse than being a Quebec separatist living in Calgary and ranting about it in bars before closing time.
How would that fare eh? lol.
now my own take on it will come if anyone bothers to answer this.
I just don't get why people think being left of centre is that bad.
i would like to know why is all.
no agendas just take my query at face value.
someone just got a nomination for being a lefty like it's worse than being a Quebec separatist living in Calgary and ranting about it in bars before closing time.
How would that fare eh? lol.
now my own take on it will come if anyone bothers to answer this.
I just don't get why people think being left of centre is that bad.
I find the hostitlity is mroe correlated to distnce from the centre, as opposed to whether one is left or right.
BartSimpson @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:05 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
martin14 martin14:
If you stick your head out of the window of the old folk's home,
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
Was that Harper though, or was that the banking regulations that were there before Harper took office?
It was a combination of all of that plus the convenience of living next door to the United States whose military (for now, at least) will absolutely curbstomp anyone attacking Canada.
Ukraine has the misfortune of living next door to a neighbor that's currently curbstomping Ukraine.
Gunnair @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:23 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
martin14 martin14:
If you stick your head out of the window of the old folk's home,
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
you might notice the beating the rest of the world has taken over the past couple of years, while Canada has gotten off pretty much scott free.
Was that Harper though, or was that the banking regulations that were there before Harper took office?
It was a combination of all of that plus the convenience of living next door to the United States whose military (for now, at least) will absolutely curbstomp anyone attacking Canada.
Ukraine has the misfortune of living next door to a neighbor that's currently curbstomping Ukraine.
That's funny as hell. Not that the US benefited by having a massive friendly landmass with a small military - in other words, zero threat - unlike say Cuba to the south which has been a thorn in its side for decades.
The US knew it could not take Canada away from the British Empire and after WW II it didn't need to. It instead used Canada as a massive northern buffer with the Atlantic and Pacific on its flanks. It's allowed you to play in the south though not very well; you guys failed in Cuba.
Don't think for a moment you guys would not have sacrificed your northern neighbour in a scorched earth campaign had the Soviets come out of the north.
andyt @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:35 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
I'm not sure I see it "just as" from a perspective of quantity. There's no leftie equivalent to talk radio, Fox or Sun news. On this forum, nobody on the left like Fiddle Dog or JJ, or even what Martin gets away with. Same with in parliament, where Harper and the boys take the prize.
Huh, guess you forgot about Curt, a blind left-wing partisan if I ever saw one.
Derby, another hard lefty, got banned.
Eureka was so blindly partisan he couldn't recognize Truth if she stuck her boobs in his face.
But let's look at the media too. When Harper was elected to a majority govt, the left-wing rags were all waffling on about how the war on women and gays was going to start up again with Harper at the helm. There were "articles" written about the fear that he'd rule by religious decree thereby turning Canada into a pseudo-theocracy.
And here on the forum, Curt was gobbling that bullshit up like a starving Biafran.
However, I think he and the handful of others are the exception to the rule on this forum. It appears that the majority on here, whether right or left, hold views at least somewhat close to center, the realm of rational thought.
Curt is a diehard Liberal. If you see that as left, you must be way right. Can't really recall Curt espousing any particular leftist ideas. Legalizing pot cuts across the political spectrum.
But I'll give you the scaremongering on Harper (not Curt, in general). With the frightening changes to the elections act that he wants to put in, that face of Harper may yet appear once he's secure enough.
herbie @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:52 pm
Simple. Everyone who labels everything they don't like as 'leftist' has blabbed so much in the media that everyone who isn't one of them has come to assume that those are 'the right'.
Nobody really knows what left and right mean anymore.
Public_Domain @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:36 pm
herbie @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:20 pm
Center? What center? You can't be center, there is no center!
You're either with us or you're a goddam (A or B)
PublicAnimalNo9 @ Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:43 pm
andyt andyt:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
andyt andyt:
I'm not sure I see it "just as" from a perspective of quantity. There's no leftie equivalent to talk radio, Fox or Sun news. On this forum, nobody on the left like Fiddle Dog or JJ, or even what Martin gets away with. Same with in parliament, where Harper and the boys take the prize.
Huh, guess you forgot about Curt, a blind left-wing partisan if I ever saw one.
Derby, another hard lefty, got banned.
Eureka was so blindly partisan he couldn't recognize Truth if she stuck her boobs in his face.
But let's look at the media too. When Harper was elected to a majority govt, the left-wing rags were all waffling on about how the war on women and gays was going to start up again with Harper at the helm. There were "articles" written about the fear that he'd rule by religious decree thereby turning Canada into a pseudo-theocracy.
And here on the forum, Curt was gobbling that bullshit up like a starving Biafran.
However, I think he and the handful of others are the exception to the rule on this forum. It appears that the majority on here, whether right or left, hold views at least somewhat close to center, the realm of rational thought.
Curt is a diehard Liberal. If you see that as left, you must be way right. Can't really recall Curt espousing any particular leftist ideas. Legalizing pot cuts across the political spectrum.
andyt andyt:
But I'll give you the scaremongering on Harper (not Curt, in general). With the frightening changes to the elections act that he wants to put in, that face of Harper may yet appear once he's secure enough.
What "frightening" changes? Lifting the ban on the early transmission of results, is that what's "frightening"?
Personally, I think it's a great idea. There was no need for the ban in the first place. It allowed people to vote strategically if they so desired. After all, we SHOULD be able to cast our ballots with as much information possible. Secondly, in this day and age of instant electronic mass communication, the ban seems rather archaic. What are they going to do, shut down the internet on election night?
DrCaleb @ Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:21 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
What "frightening" changes? Lifting the ban on the early transmission of results, is that what's "frightening"?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/electio ... -1.2527635
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/electio ... -1.2522795