Catholic MPs to rebel over embryo bill - UK story
paisley_cross @ Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:13 pm
Catholic MPs to rebel over embryo bill
Gordon Brown is facing a rebellion by Roman Catholic Cabinet ministers over Government plans for a Bill on embryo research.
The Bill going through Parliament will reform the fertility laws and allow lesbian couples to be registered as legal parents - a move that has been attacked by the Roman Catholic Church.
Labour MPs will be under a three-line whip to back the legislation. Cabinet ministers are normally bound by collective responsibility to vote for any Government Bill.
But three senior Cabinet ministers - Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, Ruth Kelly, the Transport Secretary, and Paul Murphy, the Welsh Secretary - threaten to resist the order because of their religious beliefs.
The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill is a key part of the legislative programme announced in the Queen's Speech.
The Prime Minister and Alan Johnson, the Health Secretary, have both championed it, saying it is vital in the search for cures for conditions such as motor neurone disease and cystic fibrosis.
The Bill will allow the creation of animal-human embryos - created by injecting animal cells or DNA into human embryos or human cells into animal eggs - to be used in medical research and then discarded.
That has outraged Catholic leaders, who insist that hybrid embryos, known as "chimeras", be regarded as human and their mothers should be allowed to give birth to them....
CHIMERAS
ShintoMale @ Tue May 13, 2008 6:52 am
how can a ball of cells have rights?
Durandal @ Fri May 16, 2008 6:10 pm
Because it's human life.
Even the abortion doctords admit it.
But people are so lazy they will pretend it's just a "ball of cells", and kill it like animal for slaughter.
ShintoMale @ Fri May 16, 2008 6:42 pm
Durandal Durandal:
Because it's human life.
Even the abortion doctords admit it.
But people are so lazy they will pretend it's just a "ball of cells", and kill it like animal for slaughter.
Even the abortion doctords admit it.
But people are so lazy they will pretend it's just a "ball of cells", and kill it like animal for slaughter.
a ball of cells is not different from skin cells. and many fertilized zygotes failed to implant in the uterus. being alive don't give you rights
Durandal @ Thu May 22, 2008 7:48 pm
ShintoMale ShintoMale:
a ball of cells is not different from skin cells.
It's not just a "ball of cells" its a group of cels that is a tiny tiny tiny person -- and if we dont murder it -- it will become a fully-grown person.
A group of skin cells on its own can never become a human, because it's just 000.000 someting percent of a human. Diferent story with a zygote.
$1:
and many fertilized zygotes failed to implant in the uterus.
And many children fail to survive full pregnancy and come out prematurely. Many die of ilness while they still are weak babies.
And they are all humans.
$1:
being alive don't give you rights
Outch. 
Durandal @ Thu May 22, 2008 7:54 pm
paisley_cross paisley_cross:
The Bill will allow the creation of animal-human embryos - created by injecting animal cells or DNA into human embryos or human cells into animal eggs - to be used in medical research and then discarded.
That has outraged Catholic leaders, who insist that hybrid embryos, known as "chimeras", be regarded as human and their mothers should be allowed to give birth to them...
That has outraged Catholic leaders, who insist that hybrid embryos, known as "chimeras", be regarded as human and their mothers should be allowed to give birth to them...
Progessive science gone mad.