Did Jesus start Catholicism?
Blue_Nose @ Tue May 15, 2007 7:38 pm
He's a bandit and a heartbreaker
oh but Jesus was a crossmaker
Arctic_Menace @ Tue May 15, 2007 7:41 pm
$1:
Actually, Roman Catholics consider (St.) Peter to be the founder of the RC Chruch.
Point being?
Paul was different from Peter. Sheps point still stands.
Biblical_Christian @ Wed May 16, 2007 7:18 am
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
You wanna talkabout cult's. You don't wanna go there, ok?
actually...i do in fact want to go there..i was in fact in the born-again movement for a very short period of time.the scams perpetrated on the congregration was atrocious...the "healing sessions" were a total joke...the "minister" placing his hand on some woman claiming the holy spirit is entering you then faints and falls to the floor..and the talking in tongues...same principle...nothing more than mass hysteria..now allow me to save the best for last: we had this joker..the most greasy con-man you could imagine steve hage who staged a "mens conference" where all the men had to pay 50$ to attend(hage was no doubt laughing himself silly to the bank)..nows heres the part i like...he claimed that as a child growing up in the rough end of los angeles he was so bad he was actually the only white kid admitted to an exclusively black street gang all before he "found" jesus..now of course would a group of born-again moonies examine the sociological aspects of such a notion?? of course not!!!!! i mean how could any born-again whacko lie??
EVERYTHING...about the catholic CULT is immoral, unethical, sleazy, lying, cheating, HYPOCRITICAL...
Here's a story of a kid that was forced into catholicism.
I guess it's OK to 'fuck kids and beat them' .I was born into the catholic religion. I had it shoved down my throat and up my ass! I was an altarboy. I had no say in the matter. Neither did any of the other male members of my family. When the priest said he was taking a few 'chosen' altar boys on a camping trip, It was never a question with parents as to whether or not the 'chosen one' would be going! I leave the 'week-end goings-on' to your imagination. We had NO WHERE to turn! No one would listen to us. It is still being denied!
We were little kids!
We did our chores all week in order to earn an allowance. Although we had earned it and it was supposed to be our spending money, we were 'guilted' into putting it in the collection plate on sunday.
We went to catechism for 2 hours on saturday and served mass on sunday. We attended every 'Holy Day of Obligation'.And there were many.We served/attended Benediction. This was not required of most adults. We gave up what our parents determined to be our favorite food/treat/activity for the month of lent. I don't ever recall my parents giving up a damn thing. Or any other adult for that matter! This in the name of strenghtening our belief in God! We were raised with the adage 'DO AS I SAY. NOT AS I DO'! Not just at home but everywhere within the catholic experience.Adults could and did do as they bloody well pleased and not even God could help the child who ever should question adult behaviorour.Punishment was swift and severe. But it was to be considered an honor to have the priest come over and have dinner with the family and drink till all hours!!!
Do you want to hear about catholic schools run by the nuns? I don't have any fond memories of those years either!
No wait! There are others on this board who experienced much of what I did and probably more. And they too attended catholic schools. Maybe one or two of them would tell you about their experiences.
Our chidhood was supposed to be carefree. Our teachers were supposed to look out for us. Protect us. They were supposed to be our role models. I thank God that I didn't grow up to be anything like them!
Commandments. Where the hell did that come from???
In the catholic church the 'commandments' are diligently enforced on the weak by the stong!
icekarma2752 @ Wed May 16, 2007 10:48 am
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
You wanna talkabout cult's. You don't wanna go there, ok?
actually...i do in fact want to go there..i was in fact in the born-again movement for a very short period of time.the scams perpetrated on the congregration was atrocious...the "healing sessions" were a total joke...the "minister" placing his hand on some woman claiming the holy spirit is entering you then faints and falls to the floor..and the talking in tongues...same principle...nothing more than mass hysteria..now allow me to save the best for last: we had this joker..the most greasy con-man you could imagine steve hage who staged a "mens conference" where all the men had to pay 50$ to attend(hage was no doubt laughing himself silly to the bank)..nows heres the part i like...he claimed that as a child growing up in the rough end of los angeles he was so bad he was actually the only white kid admitted to an exclusively black street gang all before he "found" jesus..now of course would a group of born-again moonies examine the sociological aspects of such a notion?? of course not!!!!! i mean how could any born-again whacko lie??
EVERYTHING...about the catholic CULT is immoral, unethical, sleazy, lying, cheating, HYPOCRITICAL...
Here's a story of a kid that was forced into catholicism.
I guess it's OK to 'fuck kids and beat them' .I was born into the catholic religion. I had it shoved down my throat and up my ass! I was an altarboy. I had no say in the matter. Neither did any of the other male members of my family. When the priest said he was taking a few 'chosen' altar boys on a camping trip, It was never a question with parents as to whether or not the 'chosen one' would be going! I leave the 'week-end goings-on' to your imagination. We had NO WHERE to turn! No one would listen to us. It is still being denied!
We were little kids!
We did our chores all week in order to earn an allowance. Although we had earned it and it was supposed to be our spending money, we were 'guilted' into putting it in the collection plate on sunday.
We went to catechism for 2 hours on saturday and served mass on sunday. We attended every 'Holy Day of Obligation'.And there were many.We served/attended Benediction. This was not required of most adults. We gave up what our parents determined to be our favorite food/treat/activity for the month of lent. I don't ever recall my parents giving up a damn thing. Or any other adult for that matter! This in the name of strenghtening our belief in God! We were raised with the adage 'DO AS I SAY. NOT AS I DO'! Not just at home but everywhere within the catholic experience.Adults could and did do as they bloody well pleased and not even God could help the child who ever should question adult behaviorour.Punishment was swift and severe. But it was to be considered an honor to have the priest come over and have dinner with the family and drink till all hours!!!
Do you want to hear about catholic schools run by the nuns? I don't have any fond memories of those years either!
No wait! There are others on this board who experienced much of what I did and probably more. And they too attended catholic schools. Maybe one or two of them would tell you about their experiences.
Our chidhood was supposed to be carefree. Our teachers were supposed to look out for us. Protect us. They were supposed to be our role models. I thank God that I didn't grow up to be anything like them!
Commandments. Where the hell did that come from???
In the catholic church the 'commandments' are diligently enforced on the weak by the stong!
ok..heres what you do...contact a lawyer who specializes in that particular form of legitation and sue the hell of them..its happening all the time...the only way the catholic church or any corrupt form of authority for that matter gets put in check is by bringing it out in the open painful as it may be..do you think i want corrupt priests molesting children?? i dont think so...get off your ass and kick theirs
icekarma2752 @ Wed May 16, 2007 11:52 am
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
You wanna talkabout cult's. You don't wanna go there, ok?
actually...i do in fact want to go there..i was in fact in the born-again movement for a very short period of time.the scams perpetrated on the congregration was atrocious...the "healing sessions" were a total joke...the "minister" placing his hand on some woman claiming the holy spirit is entering you then faints and falls to the floor..and the talking in tongues...same principle...nothing more than mass hysteria..now allow me to save the best for last: we had this joker..the most greasy con-man you could imagine steve hage who staged a "mens conference" where all the men had to pay 50$ to attend(hage was no doubt laughing himself silly to the bank)..nows heres the part i like...he claimed that as a child growing up in the rough end of los angeles he was so bad he was actually the only white kid admitted to an exclusively black street gang all before he "found" jesus..now of course would a group of born-again moonies examine the sociological aspects of such a notion?? of course not!!!!! i mean how could any born-again whacko lie??
EVERYTHING...about the catholic CULT is immoral, unethical, sleazy, lying, cheating, HYPOCRITICAL...
Here's a story of a kid that was forced into catholicism.
I guess it's OK to 'fuck kids and beat them' .I was born into the catholic religion. I had it shoved down my throat and up my ass! I was an altarboy. I had no say in the matter. Neither did any of the other male members of my family. When the priest said he was taking a few 'chosen' altar boys on a camping trip, It was never a question with parents as to whether or not the 'chosen one' would be going! I leave the 'week-end goings-on' to your imagination. We had NO WHERE to turn! No one would listen to us. It is still being denied!
We were little kids!
We did our chores all week in order to earn an allowance. Although we had earned it and it was supposed to be our spending money, we were 'guilted' into putting it in the collection plate on sunday.
We went to catechism for 2 hours on saturday and served mass on sunday. We attended every 'Holy Day of Obligation'.And there were many.We served/attended Benediction. This was not required of most adults. We gave up what our parents determined to be our favorite food/treat/activity for the month of lent. I don't ever recall my parents giving up a damn thing. Or any other adult for that matter! This in the name of strenghtening our belief in God! We were raised with the adage 'DO AS I SAY. NOT AS I DO'! Not just at home but everywhere within the catholic experience.Adults could and did do as they bloody well pleased and not even God could help the child who ever should question adult behaviorour.Punishment was swift and severe. But it was to be considered an honor to have the priest come over and have dinner with the family and drink till all hours!!!
Do you want to hear about catholic schools run by the nuns? I don't have any fond memories of those years either!
No wait! There are others on this board who experienced much of what I did and probably more. And they too attended catholic schools. Maybe one or two of them would tell you about their experiences.
Our chidhood was supposed to be carefree. Our teachers were supposed to look out for us. Protect us. They were supposed to be our role models. I thank God that I didn't grow up to be anything like them!
Commandments. Where the hell did that come from???
In the catholic church the 'commandments' are diligently enforced on the weak by the stong!
and biblical_christian..let me add i'm totally appalled as to what you went through and if you think for even one minute that those "priests" and your parents that basically sold you into slavery with the added insult they wouldnt even accept a penny from their "johns" to take from you what they did will be looked favorably upon by god you might want to think again..i lost track after about 10 posts where i try to tell you that what christian religion youre from it means nothing unless youre totally right with jesus,i dont care if youre catholic,born-again,LDS,jehova witnesses,unitarians,rastifarians...whatever...to me being christian is imitating jesus to the very best of your ability.but hey i was brought up catholic all my life with the exception a very brief stint with the born-agains that lasted only a few months and my experience with the catholic church was actually a very pleasant one even though some of most evil people i knew on a personal level could be seen in the pews every sun morning and the worst case scenario for only 2 of our priests...they were drunks
themasta @ Wed May 16, 2007 12:23 pm
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
You wanna talkabout cult's. You don't wanna go there, ok?
actually...i do in fact want to go there..i was in fact in the born-again movement for a very short period of time.the scams perpetrated on the congregration was atrocious...the "healing sessions" were a total joke...the "minister" placing his hand on some woman claiming the holy spirit is entering you then faints and falls to the floor..and the talking in tongues...same principle...nothing more than mass hysteria..now allow me to save the best for last: we had this joker..the most greasy con-man you could imagine steve hage who staged a "mens conference" where all the men had to pay 50$ to attend(hage was no doubt laughing himself silly to the bank)..nows heres the part i like...he claimed that as a child growing up in the rough end of los angeles he was so bad he was actually the only white kid admitted to an exclusively black street gang all before he "found" jesus..now of course would a group of born-again moonies examine the sociological aspects of such a notion?? of course not!!!!! i mean how could any born-again whacko lie??
EVERYTHING...about the catholic CULT is immoral, unethical, sleazy, lying, cheating, HYPOCRITICAL...
Here's a story of a kid that was forced into catholicism.
I guess it's OK to 'fuck kids and beat them' .I was born into the catholic religion. I had it shoved down my throat and up my ass! I was an altarboy. I had no say in the matter. Neither did any of the other male members of my family. When the priest said he was taking a few 'chosen' altar boys on a camping trip, It was never a question with parents as to whether or not the 'chosen one' would be going! I leave the 'week-end goings-on' to your imagination. We had NO WHERE to turn! No one would listen to us. It is still being denied!
We were little kids!
We did our chores all week in order to earn an allowance. Although we had earned it and it was supposed to be our spending money, we were 'guilted' into putting it in the collection plate on sunday.
We went to catechism for 2 hours on saturday and served mass on sunday. We attended every 'Holy Day of Obligation'.And there were many.We served/attended Benediction. This was not required of most adults. We gave up what our parents determined to be our favorite food/treat/activity for the month of lent. I don't ever recall my parents giving up a damn thing. Or any other adult for that matter! This in the name of strenghtening our belief in God! We were raised with the adage 'DO AS I SAY. NOT AS I DO'! Not just at home but everywhere within the catholic experience.Adults could and did do as they bloody well pleased and not even God could help the child who ever should question adult behaviorour.Punishment was swift and severe. But it was to be considered an honor to have the priest come over and have dinner with the family and drink till all hours!!!
Do you want to hear about catholic schools run by the nuns? I don't have any fond memories of those years either!
No wait! There are others on this board who experienced much of what I did and probably more. And they too attended catholic schools. Maybe one or two of them would tell you about their experiences.
Our chidhood was supposed to be carefree. Our teachers were supposed to look out for us. Protect us. They were supposed to be our role models. I thank God that I didn't grow up to be anything like them!
Commandments. Where the hell did that come from???
In the catholic church the 'commandments' are diligently enforced on the weak by the stong!
and biblical_christian..let me add i'm totally appalled as to what you went through and if you think for even one minute that those "priests" and your parents that basically sold you into slavery with the added insult they wouldnt even accept a penny from their "johns" to take from you what they did will be looked favorably upon by god you might want to think again..i lost track after about 10 posts where i try to tell you that what christian religion youre from it means nothing unless youre totally right with jesus,i dont care if youre catholic,born-again,LDS,jehova witnesses,unitarians,rastifarians...whatever...to me being christian is imitating jesus to the very best of your ability.but hey i was brought up catholic all my life with the exception a very brief stint with the born-agains that lasted only a few months and my experience with the catholic church was actually a very pleasant one even though some of most evil people i knew on a personal level could be seen in the pews every sun morning and the worst case scenario for only 2 of our priests...they were drunks
Only the sick are in need of a doctor and priests are only human. There are numerous people who have a problem with the Catholic Church, whether real or imagined. Some Catholics are ardent evangelists while others could hardly give a fuck. Basically, it's a cross-section of humanity. Catholicism is not perfect, nor was it ever meant to be. No religious institution is free from infallibility for the simple reason that we are human and we make mistakes. It is flawed to believe that we can know and divine the will of the Almighty. We just do the best we can, whether Catholics, Buddhists, Atheists, etc. There are many roads to truth, pick yours and shut the hell up.
Arctic_Menace @ Wed May 16, 2007 6:39 pm
I used to be freaked out by/hated Catholics, but with the rise of Evangelicism, I find myself being more scared of them and having far more respect for Catholics.
And hey, that was also before I found a profound interest in religion.