Canada Kicks Ass
George Carlin - Religion

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andyt @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:49 am

   



andyt @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:36 am

Here's Lewis Black

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:06 pm

Ok, to all you religion bashers out there, time to put up or shut the fuck up.
Did any of you work over the Easter Holiday? If you did, did you get holiday pay?
If you didn't, did you get a paid holiday?
How about Thanksgiving, or Christmas. I bet NONE of you have ever suggested to your bosses that you'd like to work the religious holidays at straight pay.
Until then, you're just a bunch of hypocrits that are quite happy to enjoy the benefits of SOME aspects of religion.

*This wasn't directed specifically at you andyt, but to all here that continually bash religion, claim they don't want it in their lives but happily take the religious holidays off with pay, or work 'em for holiday pay.

   



Wada @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:31 pm

And what religion do you subcribe to that would descriminate against any part of the national identity based on religious intolerance? [huh]

   



Guy_Fawkes @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:17 pm

Meh I could care less, I just see it as a stat holiday, Family Day, Labour Day, Easter, Christmas ect its all the same to me.

   



Dayseed @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:41 pm

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Ok, to all you religion bashers out there, time to put up or shut the fuck up.
Did any of you work over the Easter Holiday? If you did, did you get holiday pay?
If you didn't, did you get a paid holiday?
How about Thanksgiving, or Christmas. I bet NONE of you have ever suggested to your bosses that you'd like to work the religious holidays at straight pay.
Until then, you're just a bunch of hypocrits that are quite happy to enjoy the benefits of SOME aspects of religion.

*This wasn't directed specifically at you andyt, but to all here that continually bash religion, claim they don't want it in their lives but happily take the religious holidays off with pay, or work 'em for holiday pay.


I'm a religion basher and Ontario told me that under the Retail Business Holiday Act I'm required to take Easter Friday off because that way there are uniform holidays for workers.

I'd turn down the pay, but the Employment Standards Act requires I be paid above normal wages.

If you want to upend the legislation that protects your holidays, go for it, until then, I'm a victim of your religious intrusions.

   



Public_Domain @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:02 pm

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andyt @ Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:46 pm

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Ok, to all you religion bashers out there, time to put up or shut the fuck up.
Did any of you work over the Easter Holiday? If you did, did you get holiday pay?
If you didn't, did you get a paid holiday?
YES I DID.

And no, I was paid normal hours. $9. Oh, and we were actually open later and longer than normal. My employer doesn't consider Easter Sunday to be a STAT.
$1:
How about Thanksgiving, or Christmas. I bet NONE of you have ever suggested to your bosses that you'd like to work the religious holidays at straight pay.
Until then, you're just a bunch of hypocrits that are quite happy to enjoy the benefits of SOME aspects of religion.
I've never gotten STAT for Thanksgiving, I didn't even know that was possible.

As for Christmas, I was supposed to, but for some reason I was gipped on that and my complaints have been ignored. (Yay, corporate assholes) The only STAT I've ever been paid for is New Years.

EDIT: And I think Remembrance Day.

EDIT2: I've also never asked to specifically work on a STAT, and I've never asked not too. It's incidental for me. Like gambling. If the 'holiday' falls on a day I usually work, then I work, regardless of the 'extra' pay.


If they require you to work the stat, they have to pay you 2 1/2 times the regular wage. Straight time for the stat, and time and a half for working it. Friday was the stat, Monday is not a stat, tho lots of people get it off. Unless your job is precious to you, you could go to the labor board or such in your province an file a claim, which your employer would have to pay.

Nothing wrong with keeping the two religious holidays we have in this country. Christmas has been perverted by commercialism anyway, and most non-Christians are glad to get into the materialistic madness. Easter is named after a pagan goddess anyway - so no worries. Clever people use it to celebrate fertility rites.

   



Public_Domain @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:43 am

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Guy_Fawkes @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:08 am

Take him to the provincial labour board, and if you want a job join the reserves.

   



Gunnair @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:14 am

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Take him to the provincial labour board, and if you want a job join the reserves.


That, however, might put a substantial dent into the whole pot smoking anti-establishment agenda! :lol:

   



Warthaug @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:05 am

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Ok, to all you religion bashers out there, time to put up or shut the fuck up.
Did any of you work over the Easter Holiday? If you did, did you get holiday pay?

I worked the whole thing - Fri, Sat, Sun and Mon. I did not get "holiday pay" (although that's not what you get when you work stats, btw), nor any other kind of extra pay. I'm on salary, so it doesn't matter when or how much I work, I get paid the same.

Oh, and I make my own hours too; so not only did I work the "holiday", but I did it of my own free volition.

Not that easter is a Christian holiday anyway...just another borrowed pagan holiday.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
How about Thanksgiving, or Christmas. I bet NONE of you have ever suggested to your bosses that you'd like to work the religious holidays at straight pay.

In this case you owe me whatever your bet was. I work most holidays, by my own choice, and have never received a single penny more for that work than I receive any other day. And yes, that includes christmas, easter, thankgiving (which arguably is not a religious holiday, since it is a celebration of the harvest), new years, family day, and remembrance day (although RD is usually a day I do take off).

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Until then, you're just a bunch of hypocrits that are quite happy to enjoy the benefits of SOME aspects of religion.

Guess I not a hypocrite then. Although being lectured about hypocrisy, given the historical (i.e. pagan) origins of both easter and christmas, as well as the fact you seem to be unaware of the non-religious origins of thanksgiving, makes your "lecture" somewhat hypocritical inof itself.

Bryan

   



Guy_Fawkes @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:09 am

Gunnair Gunnair:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Take him to the provincial labour board, and if you want a job join the reserves.


That, however, might put a substantial dent into the whole pot smoking anti-establishment agenda! :lol:

Bah, I know plenty in the reserves that do the whole pot smoking anti-est thing :lol:

Really though I guess he would have to see what is more important, smoking pot or being able to pay for it. :wink:

   



Tricks @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:11 am

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Ok, to all you religion bashers out there, time to put up or shut the fuck up.
Did any of you work over the Easter Holiday? If you did, did you get holiday pay?
If you didn't, did you get a paid holiday?
How about Thanksgiving, or Christmas. I bet NONE of you have ever suggested to your bosses that you'd like to work the religious holidays at straight pay.
Until then, you're just a bunch of hypocrits that are quite happy to enjoy the benefits of SOME aspects of religion.

*This wasn't directed specifically at you andyt, but to all here that continually bash religion, claim they don't want it in their lives but happily take the religious holidays off with pay, or work 'em for holiday pay.

For a lot of people these days have no ties to religion. And since when is Thanksgiving a religious holiday?

   



andyt @ Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:12 am

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
I know they have to...

Unfortunately I have no way of finding another job right now and my employer is absolutely fine with just firing me. And I've mis-placed my December paystubs (which I would figure are necessary). I have talked with my boss as well. The Head Office keeps a restrictive arms-length control over the store, so my boss is pretty much powerless and has been completely ignored too.

I worked Christmas Eve for 7 full hours, and Boxing Day for 8 full hours, if you are wondering if I'm eligible. According to all the documents I could find, I'm completely eligible. Every single one of my other co-workers got paid for working the STAT except me. I was also here for over a year by that point.

I've never been paid 2 1/2 for a STAT. I don't think that's the case is Alberta. If it is, I've been screwed for a long time and didn't know. I get paid only time and a half on STATs.


You should recheck your paystubs. You may find the time and a half listed separately, but also that your regular pay includes 8 hours for that day as well. That's how it's supposed to work. You don't just get 4 hours extra that day. Since your employer is a big company, I can't believe they'd dick around like this - bad publicity if it comes out.

   



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