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Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:06 am

Are you a man? Blue_nose? I know you are. man means Mankind by the way. And it also means, Man's interpretation's of life and all other Secular interpretation's.

   



Blue_Nose @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:00 am

So, then, you should just say, "I believe in the words of the Bible, even though there is not scientific or logical reason for it".

Stop pretending that science validates your arguments, and I'll stop picking on your beliefs. Either that, or (and this is probably the dozenth time I've asked you this) SHOW ME why biochemists have disproven evolution. PLEASE.

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:16 am

Research? Heres a name.That is very familiar.Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

   



Blue_Nose @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:30 am

Please, if you're going to copy and paste something that you didn't write, at least mention where you got it.

Perhaps you've seen the quotation of Einstein in my signature. Here's Einstein's quotation in full:

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. if something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

and also,

"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever. This is somewhat new kind of religion. I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be understood as anthropomorphic. What i see in Nature is magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism.
I don't try to imagine a personal God;it suffices to stand in awe at the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it. The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naive."


Nothing about Einstein's God is similar to your Christian God. Einstein, in fact, thinks you're naive for believing in the Christian God.

However, those are merely the beliefs of a famous physicist - I asked you for research to back up your claim that biochemistry has disproven evolution, and you haven't done that. I know what Einstein believed, and that's not what I was looking for at all.

   



putz @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:31 am

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
Research? Heres a name.That is very familiar.Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."


For someone whom seems to be anti everything but Christian you we sure fast to quote a Jewish scientist.

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:34 am

Somebody asked a question.Putz. Please scroll back. And read the entire topic..Don't be so lazy all your life.

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:40 am

Where do you get your ummm stuff from? Blue_nose. Then I will tell you where my source is.

   



pave @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:35 am

Any God who would invent a Heaven and a Hell and arbitrarily place such a dilemma in front of the uneducated, non-evolved and ignorant (that would be us), is not only an extraordinary, spiritual terrorist, but a world-class Prick.

This is just another looney concept dreamt up by those who would be in control of others. And, oh yeah... it seems to be working.

Disregard it as a mindless threat.

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:34 am

Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being."

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:35 am

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... faith.html

   



ziggy @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:42 am

This Isaac Newton fella....does he have a blog? :wink:

   



Blue_Nose @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:46 am

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:
Where do you get your ummm stuff from? Blue_nose. Then I will tell you where my source is.
I know what your sources are - every time you post something that uses proper grammar, I know you've copied it from a website, and it's quite simple to track it down.

My sources for the Einstein quotations are readily found, but that's irrelevant - my point is not that I want to know where you got the information, but that you neglect to indicate that you're stealing the words of others without giving them credit.

Go here if you want to read about Einstein's opinions on religion. Frankly, its laughable that Christians cite Einstein as a proponent of their belief in God.

I'm still looking for the BIOCHEMIST who proved Evolution is impossible. Why can't you just answer that? Does your dumb website give no indication as to where this little 'fact' came from? Listing off popular scientists who happened to believe in God has nothing to do with proving the claims you've made.

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:59 am

Good point, WDIII. Next time I will be more careful.

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:06 pm

It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to figure out this area, actually. Jesus thinks all your great wisdom is all buncha Dog poop.lol.,1 corinthians 1;25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

   



Biblical_Christian @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:30 pm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... on&pl=true

   



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