The Problem With White People

Sullivan was the only one making sense. The rest were just on an apology tour.

This is what white liberals think will make a real difference. This is why white liberals talking about race all need to go and fuck themselves with a cactus. Good work on getting someone like Trump re-elected in backlash! ROTFL

Well if hyperbole was the goal then yes, he was the only one talking sense.

The 'What planet' line was raised because he was either not acting in good faith or he baseline is so absurd it not a practical starting point. He rejected systematic racism on it face and demanded they provide one example of it. How far does one head has to be in the sand before you can't draw air?

It's FUNDAMENTALS he is questioning. Like, give your head a shake. WTF? It's no wonder whataboutism is so chronic to todays discourse when you can't even come to grips with the basics.

This is how Joe Arpaio was surprised when he was pardoned that it was an admission of guilt:

When you are THIS disconnected from reality its hard to see how a dialog can even be had but it is a dialog that desperately needs to be in the open so we can see where the fault lines are.

After the residential schools atrocity of last year, after decades of ignoring what we already knew happened in those places, there really should be a moratorium on any Canadian self-righteously bitching about the racial problems of other countries. And that moratorium should last at least a thousand years, because that's probably how fucking long it's going to take Canadians to get over their goddamn smugness about "how good we are" that far too many of us apparently have bred right into our bones.

Just wondering if Stewart thinks that the Irish who got starved out of their own country really did "come to America out of choice". Or the Jews who were getting pogrom-ed into non-existence by czars. Or any of the Eastern Europeans who had to endure life under the old Austrian, Russian, and German empires? Or anyone else in the 19th century or first half of the 20th century who had to make the decision to leave home because almost anywhere else would be better and safer for them than the bloodsoaked hellscapes their own lands got turned into by monarchists, capitalists, Nazis, Fascists, and Communists alike. Would he even be willing to believe that staying at home when your birth country gets turned into a literal abattoir of endless torture & death by someone else really isn't an option for those who don't want to see their children die in front of them? Would he consider the same for any of the US-bound Ukrainians, who are literally getting blasted right out of their own country, or does he also place them on the same spectrum of white "privilege"? Nah. I doubt it. Stewart probably doesn't think that deeply, or care to examine anything except in the most narrowly defined terms, because it doesn't work in keeping the trained seals in his audience happy.

I'd like to think that someday the leftist tactic of "admit your eternal collective guilt, whitey, and get on your knees in apology" will disappear someday. Right now though? It's as strong as any other ridiculous trend has ever been. White privilege? Ha! Anyone who believes that applies in the slightest to anyone but the richest can go fuck themselves, because playing that card incessantly is only making things that much worse.

The 'how good we are' lie in Canada is synonymous with the Civil war 'Lost Cause Myth' and the roots are nearly identical. We knew the residential schools were geocide from day one but the truth was suppressed and the topic was not brought up in polite society, the original whataboutism. A moratorium is just continuing that same evil tradition that got us where we are today.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Joe Arpaio (who was running for the senate) would have reacted to the Presidential direction from Obama or 'Shit hole' Trump had he won. Let's be honest here, this is EXACTLY how 'old boys networks' are forged and to be an old boy you know what color you have to be. THIS IS WHAT JON WAS TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE FACE OF SYSTEMATIC RACSIM AND THAT'S WHY SULIVAN WENT OFF THE DEEP END TO AVOID SPECIFICS. It's ugly cronyism and that doesn't happen by accident.

Sullivan tried to talk actual data and details and Stewart wouldn't allow it. All Stewart wanted from Sullivan was a confession and admission of innate skin-colour based guilt. If Stewart had been even slightly interested in real discussion, and not just another moment for his fans, he wouldn't have stacked the show 3-on-1 to make any dissenter to his premise look equivalent to the Grand Dragon of the KKK.

Jon Stewart should go back to college, just for laughs. He'd fit in absolutely perfectly with the runaway woke totalitarianism that plagues ever single university in North America right now.

Jon wanted Sullivan to acknowledge that there was an elephant in the room and Sullivan dodged it like a coward. He tried to obfuscate stating if they could not give a precise example of systematic racism then it isn't an issue to be addressed. Patently absurd. Anything they said as an example he ignored. Like he was putting his fingers in his ears saying I can't hear you.

That's because the systemic racism has been purged from the American system of government and education and social services. What's happening know is the black community being plagued by the decades-long fallout from the end of the old industrial/labour-based economy in that the people (of all colours) on the poorer end of the spectrum weren't brought into the new skilled/service/STEM economy. It's a problem all over the world, and afflicts all colours & ethnicities, simply because capitalist society accepted the literal throwing-away of billions of people who are surplus to the system's economic needs. It's always been that way - if you don't suit the immediate purposes of the bosses & masters then they're quite content that you crawl off somewhere, die quietly, and get the hell out of their way.

What's being attributed to racism is far more the fault of capitalism. Like I said, it isn't white privilege, it's the privilege and benefits of wealth that are behind most of what's wrong in this world. And that certainly isn't a phenomenon exclusive to the United States.

I don't discount those motivators of the current malaise. Indeed they do need to be investigated of their own merits and rooted out accordingly but to ignore the momentum of the current racial divide is to cut your nose off to spite your face. It needs to be addressed and it is still the primary malcontent and yet we can't have a discourse on it because of this refusal to come to terms with that.

We can't think free markets will free us of old blood feuds. A tool without regulation defaults to a rod for tyranny.

The thing with the racial divide is that it's been purposely and deliberately stirred up by the woke in order to create as much social disruption as possible. Things were getting better in the United States, provable by statistics and by the trillions of dollars on both the federal & state levels that have been injected into minority communities since the 1960's. To suggest that things in the US are just as bad, or even worse, as it was during slavery or under Jim Crow isn't just ludicrous. It's also an absolute slanderous lie.

What the likes of Jon Stewart won't due is abandon the terminology that lets them get away with suggesting that is exactly what's happening, that this so-called white supremacy is runaway galloping away as badly in 2022 as it was in the 1890's. That's what the malicious mis-use of a term like "systemic racism" does, it makes the suggestion that entire system of the United States (governmental, social services, education, legal) is still as purposely hostile towards blacks today as it was when the fucking KKK ran the governments of all the Southern states (and far too many Northern ones too). That is simply not the case and even the most cursory examination of race relations over the past sixty years will show it to be false.

If there was a serious attempt to discuss and address the collective group pathologies that slavery & Jim Crow created in both black & white America then I'd be more open to listening to what the left claims it's trying to do. But the left isn't doing that. And I see no evidence at all that the left, and by that I mean the cultural LEFT & not social liberals, really wants to repair anything at all. What the hard left wants is submission by any dissenters to their ideology & agenda. And right now they are trying to achieve that by agitating & disrupting until someone, like the universities & media have clearly done, caves in completely and gives them the admission of collective white guilt they're demanding.

This is culture war. And a vicious one at that. There's really no peace to be had, not when you're dealing with a left that demands the complete obliteration not just of their actual enemies but also of any dissent from their agenda at all. It's issues like this that show how disgustingly similar the left is, emotionally & mentally, to the actual real racists on the far right who genuinely would like to do something like bring slavery back or outright exterminate anyone who isn't white. The rest of us get stuck in this no-man's land when the extremists end up dominating the issue.