The world without white people ....

We might be even more technologically advanced than we are, as the Chinese were almost always decades/centuries ahead of European civilizations. Most things that were 'new inventions' in Europe, like gunpowder, paper, crossbows, stirrups, etc, were in use hundreds of years before they ever were in the West. The biggest and most powerful naval fleet in the world at the time of Columbus was the Ming Navy. However, they chose a isolationist position rather than get into a war with European nations. Of course, sociologically, we'd likely be behind, as China has pretty much always been ruled by a king or a tyrant and the Greeks wouldn't have existed to develop democracy.

Japan definitely would have been a major rival, but in the end, I think China's population and resources would have overwhlemed them. Lord knows Japanese expeditions didn't fair too well (in Korea).

A major civiliization may (but likely not) have arisen in Africa, while the Aztecs and Incas would have fought for control of the Americas like Bart said, unless the Chinese/Japanese colonized it.

Just myself - I would see Japan taking the role historically served by Britain in this alternate universe.

Woah.

Nice map.

Green people exist? Coooool. :lol:

Also ... What's with Australia?

Banff Banff:

Finding out where white people come from is an impossible task , maybe one can only throw the idea toward the concept of being a creation of slaves to solve the problem of going forth to populate the earth and the survival of the worlds population to reach that success . That would be a horrible joke but claims to advances in agriculture , science , and technologies point in that direction . White domination is not a domination at all , the difference is that for some odd reason white people were able to mimic everything which already existed and created by other cultures to a greater degree . So the question remains by Ruez . How do we know none of this would have happened anyway without white people.... because historically the Chinese obviously showed signs of pointing in the direction of advancments for purposes of survival in populating the earth . We must be aliens . Forget the skin pigmentation concept there are to many things which go against the theory .

The Chinese culture (and pretty much all Asian cultures) eschew innovation. The changes that occur in their cultures are *always* due to outside influences. If you check their history you'll see what I mean.

Marco Polo - a member of what was at the time an inferior society - travelled to China to see what was there. To the minions of The Middle Kingdom there was no reason to explore their world as the only part of the world that mattered to them was China. Polo initiated the wave of influence the West would have on China. Japan is another example of a nation that was in thrall to the status quo prior to the arrival of the Dutch traders and, even then, they managed to maintain a veritable Middle Ages right up until the US Navy dropped anchor in Tokyo Bay.

Asian companies maintain development offices in the USA because their own people are loathe to innovate.

Innovation is not seen as a positive in their cultures.

Because when you innovate you criticize that which came before and this is rude to them.

The Chinese may have invented gunpowder (some say the Arabs did it first and that's how China got it) but it was a European who actually did something with it.

Other than gunpowder name one thing they've invented that no one else had before them?

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Banff Banff:

Finding out where white people come from is an impossible task , maybe one can only throw the idea toward the concept of being a creation of slaves to solve the problem of going forth to populate the earth and the survival of the worlds population to reach that success . That would be a horrible joke but claims to advances in agriculture , science , and technologies point in that direction . White domination is not a domination at all , the difference is that for some odd reason white people were able to mimic everything which already existed and created by other cultures to a greater degree . So the question remains by Ruez . How do we know none of this would have happened anyway without white people.... because historically the Chinese obviously showed signs of pointing in the direction of advancments for purposes of survival in populating the earth . We must be aliens . Forget the skin pigmentation concept there are to many things which go against the theory .

The Chinese culture (and pretty much all Asian cultures) eschew innovation. The changes that occur in their cultures are *always* due to outside influences. If you check their history you'll see what I mean.

Marco Polo - a member of what was at the time an inferior society - travelled to China to see what was there. To the minions of The Middle Kingdom there was no reason to explore their world as the only part of the world that mattered to them was China. Polo initiated the wave of influence the West would have on China. Japan is another example of a nation that was in thrall to the status quo prior to the arrival of the Dutch traders and, even then, they managed to maintain a veritable Middle Ages right up until the US Navy dropped anchor in Tokyo Bay.

Asian companies maintain development offices in the USA because their own people are loathe to innovate.

Innovation is not seen as a positive in their cultures.

Because when you innovate you criticize that which came before and this is rude to them.

The Chinese may have invented gunpowder (some say the Arabs did it first and that's how China got it) but it was a European who actually did something with it.

Other than gunpowder name one thing they've invented that no one else had before them?

exactly this is why it is confusing to what the purpose of white people is since we can argue to no end to where us aliens came from . It just may be a very prehistoric looking environment without the white people . Who knows . I wonder if there will ever be green people . :lol:

Possible the green people are off springs of Hulk Hogan .

Read this, and you see how truly awesome the Incas were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca

My Ancestors!!! We(unlike Aztecs) were not exterminated.

However, the Mayans with their temples, math and astrology and the Aztecs with their pyramids are pretty kick ass.

True enough, but need I remind you of the near extermination of the Aztec peoples? They got it bad my friend...

The Chinese culture (and pretty much all Asian cultures) eschew innovation. The changes that occur in their cultures are *always* due to outside influences. If you check their history you'll see what I mean.

Marco Polo - a member of what was at the time an inferior society - travelled to China to see what was there. To the minions of The Middle Kingdom there was no reason to explore their world as the only part of the world that mattered to them was China. Polo initiated the wave of influence the West would have on China. Japan is another example of a nation that was in thrall to the status quo prior to the arrival of the Dutch traders and, even then, they managed to maintain a veritable Middle Ages right up until the US Navy dropped anchor in Tokyo Bay.

Asian companies maintain development offices in the USA because their own people are loathe to innovate.

Innovation is not seen as a positive in their cultures.

Because when you innovate you criticize that which came before and this is rude to them.

The Chinese may have invented gunpowder (some say the Arabs did it first and that's how China got it) but it was a European who actually did something with it.

Other than gunpowder name one thing they've invented that no one else had before them?

The Guinness Book said Shumpei Yamazaki, president of Semiconductor Energy Laboratory Co. in Atsugi, Kanagawa Prefecture, has registered a total of 3,245 patents, compared with Edison’s 2,332.

Finding out where white people come from is an impossible task , maybe one can only throw the idea toward the concept of being a creation of slaves to solve the problem of going forth to populate the earth and the survival of the worlds population to reach that success . That would be a horrible joke but claims to advances in agriculture , science , and technologies point in that direction . White domination is not a domination at all , the difference is that for some odd reason white people were able to mimic everything which already existed and created by other cultures to a greater degree . So the question remains by Ruez . How do we know none of this would have happened anyway without white people.... because historically the Chinese obviously showed signs of pointing in the direction of advancments for purposes of survival in populating the earth . We must be aliens . Forget the skin pigmentation concept there are to many things which go against the theory .

I actually watched a good series guns, germs, and steel. It explained why some nations are so far ahead of other and where did this gap arise from. Anyway it came down too it is all due to resources people had. Europe unlike North America or even Africa had cows, chickens, pig’s horses, and many other things to increase food output which lead to surplus, which gave people, free time to think of other things.