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ridenrain @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:31 pm

Remember this guy:
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Sure ya do. Nice presentable spokesman for his group. I think we'd agree that he's a fine American too, although other people may have a dfferent meaning for that word than I do.)

Here's the MSNBC butchering it up to hide the fact that he's black and then Contessa Brewer denouncing all these "white people carrying guns".



THAT's why your losing viewers.
Stop the spin and tell the news.

   



ridenrain @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:27 am

MSNBC & The Great Liberal Narrative: The Truth About The Tyranny of Political Correctness

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=video&video-id ... ia-id=8723

   



N_Fiddledog @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:17 pm

Man, that PJTV one is some powerful stuff. Bill Whittle is my new hero.

The problem is the ones who most need to hear it, are the least likely to click the link, and even if they did they'd go off on some misdirecting, nit-picking argument on some incidental, and controversial detail having nothing to do with the central premise, and before you knew it you'd be arguing where the blame should fall for Pearl Harbour, or some such nonsense - like the last time you posted a link to something this right on.

Oh, and he quoted my favorite sci fi movie. Serenity. "Can't stop the signal, Mal" Yippee!

   



BeaverFever @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:28 pm

(Added emphasis mine)

$1:
Interview with AR-15-Toting Protester at Obama Rally was Staged
By Malia Politzer in NewsWednesday, Aug. 19 2009 @ 12:19PM

PHOENIX NEW TIMES

In case you missed it, about a dozen men with guns showed up at an Obama healthcare rally in Phoenix this Monday, at least one of them carrying a semi-automatic rifle.

The man packing the AR-15 (a really big gun)--identified only as "Chris B"--was interviewed by libertarian radio show host and publisher of libertarian site Freedoms Phoenix Ernie Hancock (pictured, who was also carrying a gun at the time of the interview). When asked why he was carrying a weapon, Chris B. responded, "Because I can do it. In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."

Chris B. also said that he "always carried a gun," except when showering, of course, when he'd "put it on the sink."

Eeek.

As it turns out, the entire interview was staged by Hancock, a long-time acquaintance of "Chris B," whom he'd met while working on presidential hopeful Ron Paul's campaign.

Hancock revealed to Rick Sanchez on CNN that he'd invited Chris to come to the protest with the gun for the explicit purpose of interviewing him. Though the rally was about health care, the conversation with Chris focused nearly entirely on gun rights.



Hancock fessed up quickly to the publicity stunt, and just as quickly justified his actions.
"We know what we're up against," Hancock said. "We're up against a tyrannical government that will rob the next generation as long as they can get away with it."

Hancock has also been a long-time advocate of the Arizona Viper Militia, a group convicted of conspiracy and weapons charges in the 90s for plotting to blow up a federal building. According to Hancock, the Viper Militia case was a fraud (he has also said that the government lied about the 9-11 attacks, according to investigative online site Talking Points Memo.)
We feel safer. Don't you?


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Tags: Ernie Hancock, Freedoms Phoenix, Obama, publicity stunt


So lets recap:

1)The man who was supposedly protesting Obama's health strategy and simply using his weapon in some time-honoured-yet-never-seen-before symbolic gesture of protest was really there about guns and not about healthcare.

2)He was put up to it by a radical right-winger that openly supports domestic terrorist groups

3)He was black but the guy who put him up to it and staged the whole event was white.

Any questions?

I'm adding this post to the original obama-assault weapon thread for posterity's sake.

   



Akhenaten @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:34 pm

Hilarious. A couple days ago the author of this thread and a couple other people declared that discussing this guy and his motivation was "off-topic" when the topic was him -- or at least people who brought rifles to a rally. They even went crying to the mods to get it locked when I posted a completely polite and on-topic reply there.

ridenrain ridenrain:
Why is this back? What purpose does it serve to bring it back? I'll need to compare it to my saved version before the swearing and edits by the mods.
link

Now it's time to start it up again?

Unbelievable.

   



ridenrain @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:23 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
So lets recap:

1)The man who was supposedly protesting Obama's health strategy and simply using his weapon in some time-honoured-yet-never-seen-before symbolic gesture of protest was really there about guns and not about healthcare.

2)He was put up to it by a radical right-winger that openly supports domestic terrorist groups

3)He was black but the guy who put him up to it and staged the whole event was white.

Any questions?

I'm adding this post to the original obama-assault weapon thread for posterity's sake.


1) So what? Legal and no one was hurt unlike the Union thugs who beat people they disagree with.

2) Haven't you got with the times? The opresident now supports domestic terror groups or did you think the Black Panthers are just a glee club.

3) No one "put him up to this". Why do refuse to accept that black people can be anything other than lefties or Marxists?

You ignore the fact that MSNBC LIED and distorted the facts about this man. Better check with the Ministry of truth Czar on that one.

Yes. Bill Whittle Rocks!

   



ridenrain @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:27 pm

Akhenaten Akhenaten:
Hilarious. A couple days ago the author of this thread and a couple other people declared that discussing this guy and his motivation was "off-topic" when the topic was him -- or at least people who brought rifles to a rally. They even went crying to the mods to get it locked when I posted a completely polite and on-topic reply there.

ridenrain ridenrain:
Why is this back? What purpose does it serve to bring it back? I'll need to compare it to my saved version before the swearing and edits by the mods.
link

Now it's time to start it up again?

Unbelievable.


I didn't cry to the mods EDIT BY MOD
If you notice, I wasn't near that thread when it was locked as it had gone off the rails way before then. If you have issues with that thread, you should probably take them there instead.

   



Pseudonym @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:31 pm

I am pleased that there is actual evidence being used to clarify motives now instead of slander and wild speculation. The statement in the article indicates that the man was there for gun rights/rights in general instead of healthcare in particular. Good to know.

Also, the article is way off when it describes the AR-15 as "a really big gun". Was "semiautomatic rifle" too hard? :D

   



N_Fiddledog @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:32 pm

BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Any questions?


Sure. I have a few.

12 guys turn up at a townhall protest carrying firearms. Why would you think that wasn't staged? Of course it was staged. Just as the little girl turning up at the Obama faux-townhall asking questions about the people with their mean signs was staged. Just as the sudden influx of SEIU purple-shirts was staged. Just as the Acorn buses arriving with groups sporting professionally made signs are staged. Just as the radical left, Larouchian campaign of Obama's a Nazi is staged. Just as the Craigs List advertisements offering to hire protesters to support health care was an attempt to stage.

What's your point?

What has it to do with the premise of this thread, which is the mis-reporting of that event by MSNBC was another example of a fabrication designed to create an illusion following a left wing script?

We expect that sort of thing from radicals, and politically motivated organizations. We have a right not to expect it from our media.

There would be no complaint if MSNBC had made a well-supported argument showing the protest was staged (other than the fact it's not the only example of such staging from either side, of course). The complaint is MSNBC altered information to make what they wanted to say follow a script.

   



Pseudonym @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:05 pm

I am rather of the opinion that the distinction between "planning" and "staging" is very tenuous. It does not disturb me that groups of citizens plan/stage protests in various manners and for various goals. What would bother me would be an actual lie or attempted cover up. If the SEIU workers were hiding their allegiance and posing as someone else, I would disapprove, or if the guns rights advocates were pretending that they came on their own without any foreknowledge of the event. Thus I am rather content to let the democratic process play out here. I will frown disapprovingly at Ernie Hancock for letting the perception of an unplanned interview arise, but not much past that.

   



ridenrain @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:15 pm

Here's the interview with Mr. Handcock. Nothing has been hidden or left out and CNN properly told thw whole story where MSNBC butchered it to fit their corrupt purposes.

   



Akhenaten @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:32 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
Akhenaten Akhenaten:
Hilarious. A couple days ago the author of this thread and a couple other people declared that discussing this guy and his motivation was "off-topic" when the topic was him -- or at least people who brought rifles to a rally. They even went crying to the mods to get it locked when I posted a completely polite and on-topic reply there.

ridenrain ridenrain:
Why is this back? What purpose does it serve to bring it back? I'll need to compare it to my saved version before the swearing and edits by the mods.
link

Now it's time to start it up again?

Unbelievable.


I didn't cry to the mods EDIT BY MOD
If you notice, I wasn't near that thread when it was locked as it had gone off the rails way before then. If you have issues with that thread, you should probably take them there instead.



yeah yeah yeah :lol:

   



ridenrain @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:58 pm

Akhenaten Akhenaten:
ridenrain ridenrain:
I didn't cry to the mods EDIT BY MOD


yeah yeah yeah :lol:


Priceless. Just priceless.
You couldn't make up shit like that.

   



Pseudonym @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:24 pm

ridenrain ridenrain:
Here's the interview with Mr. Handcock. Nothing has been hidden or left out and CNN properly told thw whole story where MSNBC butchered it to fit their corrupt purposes.

That's a lot clearer than the Phoenix article. I shall retract my disapproval of Mr. Hancock as it now seems as though he acted honorably. That's what I get for accepting the article without watching the interview. Thanks riden!

   



N_Fiddledog @ Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:33 pm

What this thread is actually about would be a lot clearer if you guys bit the bullet, and actually clicked the PJTV link. Here it is again in case you missed it.

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=video&video-id ... ia-id=8723

   



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