Official 9/11 foiler thread
Strutz @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:35 pm
desertdude desertdude:
If anybody is really interested there is a 3 DVD long free to watch video out on the net addressing each of the debunkers points and then some.
I think I remember the documentary you are referring to. Was it "In Plane Sight"? Or another one?
since I am also a Muslim I guess I also fall into the bloody savage category.
Yes, you do. You are too much of a coward to own up to the barbarity of your foul religion that performed these heinous mass murders and instead, you deliver this cockeyed and convoluted denial nonsense.
Bloody savages. Islam is the religion of the bloodthirsty coward.
Strutz Strutz:
desertdude desertdude:
If anybody is really interested there is a 3 DVD long free to watch video out on the net addressing each of the debunkers points and then some.
I think I remember the documentary you are referring to. Was it "In Plane Sight"? Or another one?
Loose Change is the famous one, I think.
All kinds of Conspiracy freak videos are out there. Then videos debunking those. Then there's videos claiming to debunk the debunkers, and websites debunking the debunkers of the debunkers, it goes on and on .
If anybody wants to play that game there's lots of people doing it. Some are not even MSM, so I'll give you those, because apparently the mainstream in on the conspiracy here, or something, so we can't listen to them.
But we've done debunking of debunkers debunking here at CKA.
us-politics-f18/bbc-documentary-debunking-9-11-conspiracy-theories-t22061.html?hilit=9/11%20conspiracyHere's a section from a site that claims to be fair called 911myths. In this bit they discuss the complexities of what I think we are supposed to scoff at and call "The Pancake Theory".
http://www.911myths.com/html/pulverised_concrete.htmlAnd here's a flat out damn the conspiracy theorists one that also has some opinions on the subject.
http://www.debunking911.com/collapse.htmIn fact here's an argument from another board on the idea "
Popular Mechanics suck cause they said Pancaking."
$1:
So Popular Mechanics' explanation is not exact ? How does this point to a conspiracy ?
I never said it pointed to a conspiracy! The facts are EITHER one is RIGHT or BOTH are WRONG. Its a contradiction!
No, they are both right. The towers "pancake collapsed" as PM states but the inititiation of collapse wasn't the pancaking of the floors, it was the inward bowing of the exterior collumns as NIST states. PM isn't talking about the initiation but the collapse itself.
(Wish I could give you the link to that, but it would be rude to the home board, so I won't)
My point is if one wants to get into the debunking of the debunkers of the debunking that was debunked it's available.
BRAH @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:40 pm

These towers were not designed for a 767 filled with jet fuel ramming it full velocity at estimated speeds of 500mph.
Thanos @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:05 pm
Didn't we used to have a main thread with over a hundred pages where all the conspiracy bullshit could be safely flushed into the sewer? 
Thanos Thanos:
Didn't we used to have a main thread with over a hundred pages where all the conspiracy bullshit could be safely flushed into the sewer?

We have a Muslim denier. He is not the first. The days following, the Saudi government did the same thing, blaming first, the Israelis then others but never their own Wahabist nationals. What a cowardly bunch of scum.
andyt @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:32 pm
The deniers I've met, none were Muslim. Just regular white schlubs who are sure they have the truth. And I have to admit, I find some of the arguments persuasive. Just as I think we don't know all about the Kennedy assassination, I doubt we have the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth on this one, but what that truth is I wouldn't presume to say.
andyt @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:39 pm
BRAH BRAH:

These towers were not designed for a 767 filled with jet fuel ramming it full velocity at estimated speeds of 500mph.
It appears WTC 7 wasn't even built to withstand a fire. No jet ramming into it at all. Pancaked the same way the other two did. Very strange.
I wonder if anybody ever analysed film of the collapse. Since the jets hit the buildings in the middle, seems to me the middle floors should go first, not the very top ones. Wonder if it's possible to see that from the vids?
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
desertdude desertdude:
14 years later, many are still waiting for the truth to come out as to what exactly happened on 9/11
How two planes demolished three buildings. How all three of them collapsed at nearly free fall speed into a pile of rubble and dust into their own foot print. What hit the Pentagon. How an entire commercial jet liner disappeared into a shallow crater in Shanksville. So on and so forth.
Your true colours are shining through.
They are all shades of yellow.
Even Bin Laden admitted that he'd done it. The rest of his Wahabist followers were quite proud of it.
If Desert Dude were a man, be would man-up instead of posting this crap. We've hurt his feelings, though because we didn't buy the same old cockamaymee explanation that is dusted off every September by these pathetic losers.
andyt andyt:
BRAH BRAH:

These towers were not designed for a 767 filled with jet fuel ramming it full velocity at estimated speeds of 500mph.
It appears WTC 7 wasn't even built to withstand a fire. No jet ramming into it at all. Pancaked the same way the other two did. Very strange.
I wonder if anybody ever analysed film of the collapse. Since the jets hit the buildings in the middle, seems to me the middle floors should go first, not the very top ones. Wonder if it's possible to see that from the vids?
There is nothing very strange about cheap construction or incomplete architecture, especially with a pioneering structure like the WTC ...no steel frame like the Empire State Building. This was a breakthrough in money saved.
If you think that it is at all unique, there are condo towers sprouting up like mushrooms in this part of the country that are cheaply made with nasty, cheap and (in this climate) essentially experimental glazing systems holding the glass that almost completely covers them.
That the WTC was not fireproof or impact proof is typical of cheap. Not only do the builders not have blank cheque books to draw on (unless they are government projects), they are being leaned on constantly to nickel and dime their projects? I've been part of that process, myself.
Thanos Thanos:
Didn't we used to have a main thread with over a hundred pages where all the conspiracy bullshit could be safely flushed into the sewer?

Yeah, that's the one I was looking for, but I could just find a little 16 pager.
desertdude desertdude:
And just to put it out there, till now there hasn't been any official explanation as to why the twin towers fell. So your guess is as good as mine as to why.
Two jetliners + full fuel tanks + terrorists + World Trade Centre + 1970's construction = they fell.
Seems pretty simple really.
-J.
xerxes @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:49 pm

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
desertdude desertdude:
And just to put it out there, till now there hasn't been any official explanation as to why the twin towers fell. So your guess is as good as mine as to why.
Two jetliners + full fuel tanks + terrorists + World Trade Centre + 1970's construction = they fell.
Seems pretty simple really.
-J.
Nobody (sane) would have designed a building with all of that in mind, pre- 9/11. Why would they?
Oh, and the world is around ball, too.
... just in case mno one gave the Desert Dwellers an official explanation as to why they don't fall off the edge.
Brenda @ Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:47 pm
Can we just keep this thread as a remembrance of 9-11, which kinda had a HUGE impact all over the whole globe, and NOT turn this into anything else than that?
Get your ass to the conspiracy thread or start a new one, ffs.
Thanks, BRAH, for posting this video. I cried again when I saw people jump to their deaths... It is a beautifully made video.
May they Rest In Peace.