teachers with guns???

So why would armed police or armed private security guards at a school somehow be inherently better than properly trained and properly armed teachers? We just had a thread about abusive cops so what is so magical about cops that makes them better than anyone else?

If anything, law enforcement officers are far less stable than your average school teacher.

They have far higher divorce rates, far higher substance abuse rates, and far higher suicide rates than do teachers.

Also (sarcastic comment disclaimer) as some people are worried about teachers shooting certain students I would maintain that some students may well have it coming anyhow. We should probably go get their parents, too, while we're at it.

There's some interesting points in this thread although I have to consider the trend that sometimes to move forward, you have to take a step backward.

I find it interesting that taking a strap to a kid who misbehaves is considered abuse and a traumatic experience... yet instead of simply bringing that back they're thinking about arming teachers? Because staring down the barrel of a gun is far less traumatic? I don't think so.

The problem is that the governments have already taken away so MUCH power on ALL levels. Within the family you cannot spank your children these days because they'll threaten to phone child services on you for child abuse. So parents are losing control at home. At school the same deal, back in the day when the strap & spankings were used, I'm not sure I've ever heard of any 'school shootings' because bullies simply never got to the point that they're at today, which in some cases (obviously not all, but some) is akin to an adolescent terrorist towards select peers. Then later on down the road after having put up with years upon years upon years of bullshit, the victim peer snaps & goes on a rampage and all the negativity that was heaped upon him as a child, comes flying out of the barrel of a gun. First towards others, and then aimed at himself because by this point he/she so loathes what they've become, that not only can they not live with the abuse from their peers anymore, but now they can't live with themselves anymore.

Arming teachers isn't going to fix the problem, it is not a preventative method, it is very similar to a fire extinguisher, there to deal with a problem once its arisen, rather than preventing it from happening in the first place. Arming teachers still isn't going to give them the necessary means to stop the bullying that happens, it still isn't going to give them the power to discipline unruly children, it still isn't going to give parents the power to discipline unruly children, it isn't going to fix the problems before they start.

Does the government HONESTLY think that these individuals 'shooting up' the schools are going to be deterred by the idea of being shot? How many school shooters are still alive, and how many were either shot by law enforcement or shot themselves when they were "finished" ?

i jsut think that putting more guns in schools is rediculous. it's a stupid way to solve a problem and i guarantee it won't work.

[edit] useless reply to old post... sorry

[edit] replying to old posts that have already been replied to saying the same thing i said.....

that being said....

on deterrance: of the person who is going to shoot up the scool has a concealed weapon also, and suicidal intent, how will the teacher dispatch this person with their gun?