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Well, I'd love to continue this, but I have to go teach a bunch of British junior officers not to jam their supertankers into somebody's goddamned beach house.

You guys have a good time.

Robair... who wrote the book of Genesis and how does it form the basis for science?

In fact, I use Altair to navigate. If I relied on the Christian church, about 200 years ago that would have been considered the work of the devil. I would have been gutted, burned or impaled.

You, nor anybody else, have answered the question as to why a teacher is compelled to teach the CHRISTIAN version of creation over any other religion. How bloddy arrogant.

By the way... the reason you can drive your car is because I deliver the additives for your imported petroleum. I do it by using science and my understanding of it.

Rev, keep the torch afire. Here's to the green warblers. Have a beer or two on me. (THAT, I know you'll do willingy)

   

Simply put – evolution IS the best primary answer to explaining human development. People want proof of evolution? Really? Try a library first and if that proves too intellectually daunting, perhaps this level of discourse should be discontinued then. It always amazes me that someone would possess the sheer audacity to demand that an academically sound theory should somehow be held in circumspect till it passes his or her intellectual judgment. Please.

Evolution (with its minor gaps = like the ever shrinking fossil record) doesn’t need individual approval in order for its objective truth to be substantiated – ultimately; the onus is on the dissenters to demonstrate HOW evolution is fundamentally flawed. Perhaps they could illustrate how the fossil record is incorrect or methodologically flawed? It should be an interesting answer.

Hey Hormel!

   

Oh my, it is weird to be back online. Hello all and a special hello to those from the old HT that invited me here.

Intelligent Design is nothing more than Creationism with a fresh coat of paint. And it has no merit to it whatsoever. Boiled to its essentials, ID takes a snapshot of life on Earth and assumes that this has all been intended. Humans, shih-tzus, apples, ebola and Stephen Harper are all products of destiny. They aren't.

Discarding the notion of extinction (whoops! Guess THOSE designs weren't so intelligent!), ID fails to adequately address mutation and changes in allele ratios in a population over time. If there's a grand design afoot, why all the change resident in DNA mutations and replication errors? If change has been incorporated into this Intelligent Design, how would "improvements" be graded? Would increased ability to survive and sire successful offspring be a good criterion to measure? If the change was for the worse, would the mutant die?

Dammit, that's Darwinism.

Next, right-wing Christers will be wanting to put warning stickers on biology textbooks warning that evolution is only a theory....oh....wait.

Perhaps a special orange sticker for these nutters that says, "DO NOT BURN".

   

Ah, science. It's good to be alive in the age of knowledge. Of course it's important to remember that Scopes lost the Monkey Trials. We have to remain forever on guard against willful ignorance, it seems.

   

Rev,

You are indeed correct – while “intelligent design” (read: creationism) may act as a pacifier to the superstitious and provide them with an “alternative” to objective truth, we must be careful to not allow its inclusion into normal secular curriculum. People are entitled to their beliefs (whatever that may be – nefarious or innocuous), but they must also be open to the possibility that they are indeed wrong. I don’t subscribe to intellectual relativism and I still think that “creationism” and its tenets should be left to the church and kept far away from the science classroom. If the current same-sex marriage debate is any indication, the fight against antiquated notions and ignorance is far from over.


Dayseed,

Hey, long time, no see – Napoleon Dynamite? “Now that’s what I’m talkin’ about”!!!

   

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